Micheal Reagan has the homeless figured out....

[hundred6]

i was listenin to reagans show tonight on my way the the store. according to reagan the homeless actually want to be homeless. why does he think this? because someone called in and told him so! and the homeless make 40K a year panhandeling at intersections but actually choose to live in rags. and someone must be making the signs for them because they are all literally to stupid to make them for themselves...but not too stupid cuz they run the intersection scam. and then he went on to make fun of them ( literally laughing ) talking about the homeless pushing shopping carts around.

i couldnt believe what i was hearing. and i made me wonder....if micheal reagan wasnt the son of ronald reagan, would anyone give two shits about what he thinks or sez?

i doubt it.

[prole_for_peace]

1. 40k a year!!?? that's it. i am now a homeless person.

that is close to what i make now and i have to spend a lot on looking presentable at work. it if could wear rags and not worry about my hair or makeup i would be RICH.

[Gormy Cuss]

5. Don't forget, that's tax--free!

Why, we should all get out there and start sparechanging.:sarcasm:

[librechik]

28. and so little overhead

literally!

[MissB]

10. Someone posted a link from a newspaper article

today. It was about an Ashland, Oregon couple with three kids that did make about $40k a year by panhandling. They live in motels and don't appear to be too "raggy".

[superconnected]

23. what about the real homeless people.

Oh, it's easier to think they're all making 40k... gotta wonder who those ppl are who sleep on the sidewalks, eat in the bean lines, show up for labor ready and bathe at the library sink are.

[Hope springs eternal]

2. Yup

"The Blacks want to be enslaved"

"The Jews wanted to be massacred"

"Jesus got what was coming to him"


Assholes.

[Sal Minella]

3. Ronald Reagan said "A lot of people are homeless because they

essentially choose to be homeless." He also believed you could buy an orange with a twenty-dollar food stamp and take the change and go buy vodka. He told people that. He also suggested ketchup should be counted as a vegetable in school lunches. He also thought firing Ollie North (the guy already set up to take the fall) was going to make the whole Iran-Contra scandal go away the next morning after it broke.

We still haven't seen the documents from Bush the Greater's vice-presidency because they're illegally being kept from the public. We're going to get a very interesting update on Iran-Contra when Poppy's ("I was out of the loop") personal papers finally become available.

At least the Reagans acknowledge that the homeless exist. The BFEE can't even see them. Even the ones in New Orleans, apparently.

[kskiska]

33. I remember reading of a remark by Nancy Reagan

as she and her husband were sitting in their limo, stuck in traffic. As they finally reached the cause of the tie-up, two black men pushing a broken down car, Nancy muttered, "That figures."

[The Backlash Cometh]

35. Didn't he also say that forests caused pollution?

And Bradley got in trouble when they were on Air Force One and while flying over a forested area, he points out the window, turns to the press and says, "Look, Killer Trees."

[MADem]

4. Well, Reagan's other son, Ron, is OK with me

He's a liberal Buddhist, and he has his shit together. So, in the
sons' department, old Ronnie is batting .500--may not be great for family, but it ain't a bad average for baseball....

[boobooday]

6. Why isn't he out there?

If being homeless is such a cushy existence?

[MrSlayer]

7. There are a lot of scammers that pretend to be homeless.

And they make a load of tax free money. But to portray every homeless person this way is ludicrous. This guy is just an asshole.

[MercutioATC]

8. Everything else aside, some people DO choose to be homeless.

At least one....I've met him.


I've met somebody that spent their life traveling north to south (hitchhiking) as the seasons changed, picking up the odd job to pay for food. They explained to me that they didn't choose to be part of "normal" society (although I doubted their ability even if they chose to do so).

I'm certainly not saying that all...or most...people choose to be homeless, but there ARE people who do make that conscious choice.

[oasis]

9. Such mentality leads to Freeper baseball bat attacks on the homeless.

[jedr]

11. yup, and people with cancer just get it for the sympathy they get;

If panhandling is so lucrative, then why doesn't Mike try it? But anyway , in the neocon economy, it may well become a growing profession. You have to give them credit for their entrepreneurial savvy, you know, the new "Ownership society"?:puke:

[NewJeffCT]

12. back in the 80s, I shut somebody up about that

They said people choose to be homeless.

I asked them, incredulously, "why would any WANT to be homeless?"

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[PDJane]

14. I despise that argument.

That's like the "welfare queen" argument.

You can't make a logical argument for or against anything by using the exceptions, and these people are the exceptions.

Yes, there is a somewhat elderly woman here who made an extremely lucrative living by panhandling downtown........but most of those who are pandhandling aren't doing so for the cushy life it provides.

I'm sure that somewhere there exists a "welfare queen," but most of the folks I've known on welfare are out of work and/or pregnant, or disabled..........saying they could all get a job and that they choose to live on welfare because it's such a cushy life is ridiculous.

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[PDJane]

24. I personally think........

that it's not lack of responsibility that is "intoxicating"......in fact, that kind of freedom is rarely all that free or easy.

[NV Whino]

15. Why don't you give it a try?

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[shraby]

16. Some of those "choices" you enumerate aren't really

choices. Some don't choose to have sex when they are 13..some are raped. Most don't choose to marry losers, drug dealers, or people who beat them..most get married with stars in their eyes but find out the hard way what kind of person they married after the ceremony and a couple of years of married life. Most are not fine with the idea of living of charity, studies have shown that most who have to resort to welfare or charity, do so for less than a year and quickly get back to a productive life.

[jedr]

18. no one chooses to be an alcoholic or drug addict;

If the pain of your life is unbearable, you got to kill that pain somehow...at some given point you just give up and stay high. Hate to tell you but many kids are beat , molested, have chemical imbalances, etc and grow into dysfunctional adults. No one gets up in the morning and says, "I'm too lazy to work, I'll be a drug addict" If staying alive everyday is all that you can do, school and a job take second place...try being 4yrs old with no family to protect you and tell me what choices you make....by the way welcome to d/u, I'm not sure that your in the right place.

[Oeditpus Rex]

21. Welcome to DU

Enjoy your stay. :popcorn:

[Maat]

29. Some choose to be born into families in which the parents are ..

using methamphetamine, and spending their money on getting the drug ... some people choose to be born into homes in which they are sexually abused ...

:sarcasm:

I mean, come off, by and large, the homeless I met when I was a social worker suffered from mental illness, including, but not limited to, post-traumatic stress disorder, from having been raised in something akin to a war zone.

They could not have possibly made the choices I was blessed enough to be able to make ... like going to college.

Most never saw the door to a preschool, so they were behind when they hit first grade, and they were busy being beaten or starving when the rest of us were studying after a hot meal.

I don't mean to be rude, but what you are saying is leaves quite a bit of the dynamic out of the picture.

[Ksec]

17. Save yourself.

Dont watch or listen to idiots like reagan. I tried it once and ended up walking around pissed off and uptight all the time. My wife even noticed how different I was. Thats when I realized no good could come from listening to idiots. Really, what good comes from listening to people who hate this country and want to ruin it for everyone else?

[UTUSN]

19. No WONDER His Absent "Father" Adopted Him n/t

[Maat]

30. I'm not sure what you mean.

I AM my kid's mother; I am her REAL mom. She happened to have came to me in a special way.

Are you saying that because Ronald Reagan adopted him - that he is not REALLY Reagan's son?

If you are, let me know. I have something to say about that.

[meganmonkey]

20. I work with homeless people

and I am so irritated by that shit I don't even know where to start.

When people think homeless they think of the guy on the corner looking for change. Yeah, the odds are good he's a disabled veteran and the gov't fucked him over. Anyone who doesn't believe me, google it. It's easy to find. I'm not gonna work that hard on a Friday night.


Most homeless people I see are families - young moms with a kid or two whose husband beat the crap out of them, or who is addicted to meth, and they had to get out. Or a couple with a kid or two who lost their home when the husband got laid off from his job in the auto industry, and they have no where to go.

Or disabled or elderly folks who are getting hassled for their benefits and get evicted.

There are ALL KINDS of homeless people. Many of us here are probably a few paychecks or a medical crisis away from homelessness, unless we're lucky to have family to help us out in a crisis.

When politicians and activists advocate for the homeless, please try to think of all the different faces of it.

[superconnected]

25. most people are 1 pay check from being homeless.

only 3 percent of americans put money in savings each month.

[EFerrari]

27. Micheal Reagan is a f$cking idiot.

What station was that?

I want to have a little word with them.

[hedda_foil]

31. Folks, this is a repeat of the RW "welfare queen" scam

Remember when they used the spurious story of a black welfare mother with a Cadillac car and lots of money from all those kids she spurted out? Remember how the RW successfully used that meme to push their draconian "welfare reform"? This is the same this but even worse because the homeless, for the most part, receive no government funding, and are often mentally ill, or disabled. This is an ugly RW meme that should not receive ANY support from so-called liberals on DU.

[f-bush]

32. ronny's little boy has never had to struggle in his charmed life.

I can't stand pious, num nut, ignorant assholes like him. Until you have given your life in social services or have been hit by homelessness or other serious life struggle's, keep your dumb shit comments to yourself.

[The Backlash Cometh]

34. How old are you hundred6?

Just asking because this is exactly what Ronald Reagan said back in the 80s. Sounds word for word.

[ComerPerro]

36. If that caller isn't homeless, then he's an idiot

why even bother working, when he could be living the plush life of a homeless person, making $40k a year?

And, if he was married, and he and his wife were panhandlers, thats $80k a year! And its tax free!!!

When adjusted, that puts them in the category of upper middle class...

Why is that caller working, like some kind of sucker? Is he that stupid?