Possible way to tell if your email is being watched?

[CoffeeCat]

My husband is head of security for an internet service provider.

He is incensed about the spying issue. In an off-hand remark--while he was thinking out loud--he mentioned a possible way to tell if your email is being monitored.

Subscribe to an international email service--such as Yahoo or other programs that originate from overseas. Then, set up a Yahoo or Hotmail account (US based). Send emails back and forth between the two programs with "red flag" words.

(I'm not suggesting that anyone threaten anyone. However, what if someone wrote emails back and forth with words such as "Bush sucks" "Impeach" "terrorist" and other juicy words).

Within ALL of your emails, include a Web address that links to an anti-Bush site such as "pResident disgusting piece of trash is a disgrace to this nation and a traitorous, third-class thug criminal.com". Or you could do a nice short Web Address, "BushSUCKSbigtime.com". "OurpresidentisAnAssclown.com" has a nice ring to it, as well.

Tell no one about the Web addresses. Then, watch the traffic and see if you get any interesting hits from the DoD or the NSA. If ANYONE hits your Web address, you know that someone is monitoring you.

I think it would be interesting to see what happens.

[salin]

1. That wouldn't tell you if you had been watched prior to

starting the scenario above - but it would tell you whether or not such activity could put you in "the net" of being spied upon. Given that none of the activity would involve a foreign national suspected as having ties to al qeada or terrorism (the words used by the admin and their echo chamber to pursuade folks that they are not being spied) - it sure would demonstrate the BIG LIE being used by the Admin to tell americans that this fisaless spying is "limited" and only with americans corresponding to foreign nationals outside of the country, and only when said foreign national is suspected of terrorist links.

It would be interesting - but I wouldn't be willing to do it.

[boobooday]

2. I have seen hits on my anti-Bush website

from various gov't agencies, including the NSA and CIA.

I hope they enjoyed their visit!

I was getting quite a few from .mil sites for a while, but I figured it was just military people surfing at work.

[NYCGirl]

3. Sort of like taking a gun into a bank just to see if the police are

watching you.

[CoffeeCat]

7. What you say has a kernel of truth...

However, isn't it sad that it's come to this?

Carrying a gun into a bank, would involve risking your life.

It's pretty sad for our entire country when engaging in innocent, non-criminal behavior could possibly be a threat to our safety.

I agree with you NYCGirl. The fear this administration has cultivated is widespread and probably effects us more than we realize.

That's what they want though...

[linazelle]

4. This was posted here before about a week ago.

:eyes:

[CoffeeCat]

6. Just to clarify....this is my first time posting this...

I've never posted this here before.

:)

[freeplessinseattle]

8. well, I didn't see it, and TS didn't see it,

so what's with the eye-rolling?

[Catrina]

5. I think you'd only have to talk about being a Democrat to attract Bush's

spies. That might be an interesting experiment. Do what you suggest, but only expressing your views on issues, without attacking anyone.

Then do the same thing, as a Republican.

Personally, I've adapted the attitude of anyone who ever lived in a totalitarian society. I just assume that unless you're an avid Bush supporter, the chances are you are on his paranoid, political enemies list.

Frankly what would surprise me under the current regime, would be if that was not the case.

Bush claims he's trying to catch terrorists. The Spy Scandal has revealed, so far, that about 80,000 US citizens have been spied on.

Apparently the same number are on the 'no fly' list. So far, everyone who has reported being on that list has no terrorist connections whatsoever, but is a Democrat, a war protester, a Green Party member, a Democratic Senator, an author who wrote a not very flattering book about Bush, a musician who is aMuslim ~

If this list was not just a political enemies list, surely at least one rightwinger, ie, a pro-abortion, anti-gay type would have been flagged. Most terrorists surely don't hold liberal views?

For example, Chalabi, accused by this government of spying for Iran is not on any restricted no fly list!! Despite the fact that the FBI would like to talk to him!!

I read that if you find out you are on the no fly list, you cannot sue. However, that should only apply if the truth is being told about it (not that I agree with that, either) But, I wonder if a class action suit is possible based on the charge that this is not a list to target terrorists, that the evidence emerging indicates that it is a political enemies list.

The author of Bush's Brain was the latest individual to find himself on that list. More and more this is looking like an abuse of the privileges Bush claims.

So, I'm wondering if rather than an individual lawsuit, since they've made that impossible, what about a lawsuit based on a challenge to the claim being made that it is a terror tool when all the evidence proves otherwise? Let them prove it in court. Let them explain how Ted Kennedy ended up on the list. This is total BS in a supposed democracy.