Showing a corpse over and over again on tv is totally disgusting. Why only

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

"Zarqawi" and Saddam's sons? Do they plaster corpses over your tv for the local dead?

[Kolesar]

1. I agree. I was eating dinner last night and watching TV

Tweety Matthews show was disgusting.

[izzie]

4. Guess it is better than showing coffins with flags.

That will up set people.

[Tesha]

13. We watched "Lord of the Rings" instead

We watched "Lord of the Rings" instead.

Orcs beheaded right on your screen -- now *THAT's* entertainment!

Well, that and all the Bush/Sauron jokes we were making.

Tesha

[Philosoraptor]

2. But, we're a civilized nation, so it's o.k.

Bluntness and brutality, that's the American way.

It is truly disgusting, just like our government.

[Wetzelbill]

3. why show those corpses, when you won't even show the

caskets of our own troops?

[Philosoraptor]

6. They should show our dead and wounded, but most wouldn't look.

Not while I'm eating dinner with the kids. But their kids will soon be in it if they don't stop the neocons.

[Tesha]

15. The good guys never get killed!

It's the first rule of action-adventure movies:

No matter how many machine guns/lasers/what-have-you
are being fired at the good guys, the good guys are
never hit by any of them. And the corallary is that
when the good guys fire one shot, it never misses.

The media is just doing its part to portray Iraqnam
as the action-adventure movie Bush's more-doltish
supporters thought it would be.

Tesha

[Wetzelbill]

20. my first column ever, back when I was a columnist

was about this. About how Iraq will be a bloodless war, it was right before we invaded, maybe a month and a half before, I think. If you look back, the first Iraq War was bloodless, nobody saw bodies piling up like cordwood as in Vietnam. Cheney was the Secretary of Defense then. He monitored everything coming out of that country, right down to the film the networds shot. They brought in reporters, set them in certain safe areas and let them go in and report only after a battle was over and stuff was cleansed as much as possible. It's interesting to see how controlling a guy like Dick Cheney is. Pretty shitty for the country, but interesting to look into. And, you know, you have it exactly right how the media is making it look like an Action-Adventure movie. Just look at the Jessica Lynch stuff, totally fabricated. Like a scene out of "Commando" or something.

[Lasher]

5. That's what the Iraqis expect

That's part of the Iraqi culture, although it's not OK in our culture. It's kind of like when our Chimp in Chief was holding hands with a visiting Saudi.



I don't know when it was that it was no longer OK for us to just be us.

Edit: Doesn't the Geneva Convention prohibit the display of enemy corpses?

[Philosoraptor]

7. Yes, it's not appropriate for prime time.

In America, all the ugliness and warts are airbrushed over.

[Tesha]

17. See, that's the beauty of us not really being "at war"

> Edit: Doesn't the Geneva Convention prohibit the display
> of enemy corpses?

See, that's the beauty of us not really being "at war": the
rules of war don't apply in Afghanistan or Iraqnam. So there's
none of those pesky worries about how we treat captured enemy
combatants or how we treat corpses. We can render captured
combatants over to folks who just might torture them, we can
put the dead on public display, we can even play soccer with
severed heads! Heck, we probably can't even be prosecuted for
"war crimes" given the "no war" status.*

It's a win-win situation in Bush's no-war war!

Tesha


* Although "Crimes against humanity" might be a different story.

[Skidmore]

8. After the Iranian revolution in 1979, the national television station

there used to show the bodies of those that were executed every evening and tell the story of their wrongdoings. My daughter was about 8 at the time and my son was a toddler. We turned the television to face the wall until this waned. The newspapers everyday had similar photos. The newspaper was locked in a cabinet for the adults in the extended family to read when they had time and destroyed as soon as everyone had read it. Many people did not feel as strongly as we did about not adding to the stress the children were under with disruptions in routines, and this only became more evident with the added stress of the Iran-Iraq war after it began. Then again, there are many cultures in the world that are less squeamish about the dead than we are. Just a fact.

[LaurenG]

9. Its the "shock value" our gov. thinks we need to have

their agenda shoved down our throats, repeatedly. However, Olberman did the same thing last night, we switched channels because of it.

[lindisfarne]

10. this makes me glad my TV has been in its box for months - the best

place for it 99% of the time.

[Philosoraptor]

11. & the way he was displayed looked like a Beheading.

Which is what they always brought up, that he beheaded people on film.

So this was a symbolic beheading.

[theoldman]

12. It definitely was a symbolic beheading.

In the olden days, barbarians would cut off the head of their defeated enemy and put it on public display. This is the type of culture that we now have governing our country.

[Hubert Flottz]

14. What will we tell the children...

When they ask about "Thou Shalt Not Kill"?

[LuckyLib]

16. The "good Christians" will have to tell them about all the

exceptions.

[Hubert Flottz]

18. Where are the pictures of the little kid they killed at that house...

and the woman?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

22. Excellent point. But they want your children to want to kill. The new

generations are intended to be kept poor and to become fodder for the military. Stupid dumb animals as Henry Kissinger says.

They don't even give a warning that they will be showing a graphic photo like MSM does All The Time, they just put that horrible photo right up on the screen.

[FloridaPat]

19. Everyone complains * doesn't show the dead from Iraq. Now he does

and all you do is complain. Flig flopper?

[davepc]

21. Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions

http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/c525816bde96b7fd41256739003e636a/aa52bfea7c5c5bc3c12563cd0051daa3

Part II : Wounded, sick and shipwrecked #Section III -- Missing and dead persons

Article 34 -- Remains of deceased

1. The remains of persons who have died for reasons related to occupation or in detention resulting from occupation or hostilities and those of persons not nationals of the country in which they have died as a result of hostilities shall be respected, and the gravesites of all such persons shall be respected, maintained and marked as provided for in Article 130 of the Fourth Convention, where their remains or gravesites would not receive more favourable consideration under the Conventions and this Protocol.

2. As soon as circumstances and the relations between the adverse Parties permit, the High Contracting Parties in whose territories graves and, as the case may be, other locations of the remains of persons who have died as a result of hostilities or during occupation or in detention are situated, shall conclude agreements in order:

(a) to facilitate access to the gravesites by relatives of the deceased and by representatives of official graves registration services and to regulate the practical arrangements for such access;

(b) to protect and maintain such gravesites permanently;

(c) to facilitate the return of the remains of the deceased and of personal effects to the home country upon its request or, unless that country objects, upon the request of the next of kin.

3. In the absence of the agreements provided for in paragraph 2 (b) or (c) and if the home country of such deceased is not willing to arrange at its expense for the maintenance of such gravesites, the High Contracting Party in whose territory the gravesites are situated may offer to facilitate the return of the remains of the deceased to the home country. Where such an offer has not been accepted the High Contracting Party may, after the expiry of five years from the date of the offer and upon due notice to the home country, adopt the arrangements laid down in its own laws relating to cemeteries and graves.

4. A High Contracting Party in whose territory the gravesites referred to in this Article are situated shall be permitted to exhume the remains only:

(a) in accordance with paragraphs 2 (c) and 3, or

(b) where exhumation is a matter of overriding public necessity, including cases of medical and investigative necessity, in which case the High Contracting Party shall at all times respect the remains, and shall give notice to the home country of its intention to exhume the remains together with details of the intended place of reinterment

of course, as a terrorist, Zarqaui doesn't "qualify".