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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:04 PM
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Just heard on CNN Radio: Bush outed Special Ops general with Zarqawi story
Apparently, the general that operates top secret special forces operations was outed by Bush as he beat his chest about al Zarqawi's eighth and "final" death.

Link soon...
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:05 PM
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1. ah geez... again... how stupid could this mo fo be...
Edited on Fri Jun-09-06 01:08 PM by jsamuel
refresher

1. Plame
2. Double agent in Brittain that was leading us to others including those who bombed London on 7/7
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 03:14 PM
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27. it now appears the op was incorrect
thank goodness
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:06 PM
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2. WTF?
just when you think they can't get any lower.

I think I need to go to the lounge today before my head explodes!

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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:08 PM
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3. They did it again?
good grief
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:09 PM
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4. If I were wearing a hat, I'd throw it on the ground and stomp it.
They can't possibly be that stup--oh, for crying out loud.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:09 PM
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5. It's mentioned in passing in their main 'Zarqawi-fest' article

(snip)

Bush thanks special ops

President Bush, appearing at a news conference Friday at Camp David, Maryland, said he phoned U.S. Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal to congratulate him on finding al-Zarqawi.

McChrystal heads one of the most secret covert special operations forces in the U.S. military, called the Joint Special Operations Command.

The president offered no other details of the conversation.

(snip)

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/09/iraq.al.zarqawi/index.html

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:19 PM
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9. Thanks! There it is!
Thanks Chimp...
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:41 PM
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13. OH... MY.... GOD....
What's worse? If he meant to, or if he didn't.....?
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cactusrose Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:10 PM
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6. I want a link to this as soon as you have it.
Also links to info about how many times they've claimed to kill this guy.

Thanks.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:15 PM
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8. Here's an entire topic on all those other "killings"...
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:12 PM
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7. Google search gives me 26,900 hits on the good general's name.
Articles date back to 2003 naming him by name. How was he outed?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:33 PM
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10. Apparently he's now top Special Ops general doing top secret...
...operations. U.S. Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal, that is.

I suppose he's now off the gig, thanks to Chimp.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:37 PM
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11. "Stanley McChrystal " covert=405 google hits, here's 2/13/06.

http://news.tbo.com/news/metro/MGBB8JR7MJE.html
Special Ops Command Gets Extra Clout

By RICHARD LARDNER rlardner@tampatrib.com

Published: Feb 13, 2006

Along with ambitious plans for a dramatic boost in special operations forces and equipment, the Defense Department is putting more stars on the leaders of those troops.

Army Maj. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, leader of the secretive Joint Special Operations Command, is in line for promotion to lieutenant general, a move that elevates the stature of the organization he runs while also ensuring the highly respected West Point graduate stays on the job longer. The command, known as the JSOC, falls under control of U.S. Special Operations Command at MacDill Air Force Base.

Senior Socom officers assigned to other war fighting commands, such as U.S. Central Command, are due for upgrades as well. Several of these slots will become two-star billets, giving the officers in them greater clout in planning and coordinating special operations in various parts of the world. The JSOC (pronounced "jay-sock"), located at Pope Air Force Base in North Carolina, is euphemistically described in Socom publications as a think tank for the special operations community.

In reality, the command has day-to-day control of the nation's most clandestine commando groups and is a critical component in the global war on terrorism. The JSOC's "door kickers" handle covert counterterrorism operations, reconnaissance in denied areas, hostage rescue missions and other shadowy tasks. McChrystal, a Green Beret who also commanded the 75th Ranger Regiment in the late 1990s, has been JSOC's top officer since September 2003...(more@link)
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:38 PM
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12. he's already been mentioned as having that post
http://news.tbo.com/news/metro/MGBB8JR7MJE.html

article from Feb 13th.



Army Maj. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, leader of the secretive Joint Special Operations Command, is in line for promotion to lieutenant general, a move that elevates the stature of the organization he runs while also ensuring the highly respected West Point graduate stays on the job longer.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:41 PM
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14. Sorry to rain on the Parade, but
The head of JSOC is hardly a secret position...
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:12 PM
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19. right
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:17 PM
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23. Agreed...
Command positions are rarely secret... Too many meetings to attend, and then there is the matter of giving kudos on a good job, or someone to blame when an op goes to shit...

The shrub outed no one in this deal.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:45 PM
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15. The general was mentioned in Raw Story article yesterday:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/The_real_heroes_of_Zarqawis_fall_0608.html

Looks like the gov't wasn't keeping his identity and job particularly secret.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:59 PM
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16. He was not covert because I checked b4 I ran the story
Just like I checked to make sure that the code names I was using for the teams was older, not the new ones. This has been out in public since at least March... so not sure what the big deal is about

google Army Times, Guaridan, etc.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:14 PM
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20. Yeah I figured it wasn't a big secret. Good that you checked though, given
our gov't's tendency to selectively leak classified info when it suits their purposes. ;)
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:28 PM
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25. yeah, i know... one reporter is already under investigation
by the FBI for a story about this earlier this year.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:07 PM
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18. From the CNN story...
From CNN:

"McChrystal heads one of the most secret covert special operations forces in the U.S. military, called the Joint Special Operations Command."

I wonder why that was added to the story as well as why the story about Bush outing him was even mentioned. Frankly, I didn't google the general before posting the alert. I would find it strange that if he's head of a secret ops that his name is bandied about so much...seems odd to me...
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:33 PM
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26. Because he's not one of the "operators" he's not out conducting actual
missions. He's just the head of the Special Ops Bureaucracy is all. Just like the head of the CIA.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:03 PM
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17. um,
who side is georgie really on?
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:16 PM
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21. Dimson, casting his net of incompetence far and wide...
or maybe it wasn't incompetence..maybe it was retribution for something we don't know yet.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:17 PM
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22. This is what happens when Rove is busy with the 2006 smearfest.
Bush's brain wasn't around, so he opened his mouth and gave away 'state secrets'. Almost as bad as when Giraldo Rivera drew an outline (in Iraq, in the sand) of the building the troops he was attached to were about to raid. Stupid & dangerous.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:18 PM
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24. No medal of freedom for people that get things right.
You only get those if you screw up royally.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:15 PM
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28. oops nearly missed it zulchzulu Kicked and Rec. good op. n/t
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 04:21 PM
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29. IMPEACH THE TREASONOUS RETARD! (nt)
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