If there's no filibuster, every Democrat in the Senate will be complicit

[smoogatz]

in the recriminalization of abortion, the demise of one-man-one-vote, the death of environmental legislation and worker's rights, and the descent of the nation into virtual dicatorship through the elimination of congressional and judicial checks and balances on the presidency. They will all be complicit--every single one of them.

[eyesroll]

1. Let's say 30 Democrats want a filibuster. The rest don't.

Those 15 are not going to budge. Without them, no filibuster.

Are those 30 complicit anyway?

:shrug:

[smoogatz]

7. Insofar as they've failed to act as an effective opposition, yes.

It means that the Democratic party itself is a fiction, IMO; it means that as a political entity we're finished, castrated, beaten. We're just pretending that or values are in some fundamental way different from the right wing's values. So, all complicit in that regard, yes.

[LittleClarkie]

9. WE will have failed as well

Anyone who calls themselves a Democrat will also be complicit.

If you make a blanket condemnation like that, why stop with the Senators. That's too easy. What could we have done to let Dems in the Senate know we had their backs. Are there organized phone campaigns, will there be demonstrations, have they felt pressure from their constituents?

If we fail, then WE failed. If they are complicit, so are we.

[smoogatz]

10. Nonsense. It's their freaking job. You and I pay their salaries--

they're supposed to be watching out for us. It's their JOB. It is not their job, IMO, to be polite, to worry about the political fallout back home, or to kiss George W Bush's ass. If they won't do their jobs, fuck them all.

[Dr Fate]

2. That is what the ultimate reality will boil down to.

DEM'S need to make it known, loud & clear-

WE OPPOSE A UNITARY EXECUTIVE!

[Mr.Green93]

4. Aren't unitarians progressive?

[Dr Fate]

6. If so, then I say we tap their phones.

Who would stop it?

[Dr Fate]

5. delete

n/t

[TahitiNut]

3. It's Imperial Federalism with state and corporate fiefdoms.

The 'quaint' notions of republicanism and democracy are merely marketing jargon now. We have a political game of "good cop v. bad cop" and circuses to keep the labor pool amused.

[DELUSIONAL]

8. If they don't fight then I'd bet they have been black mailed

by the bushie crime family.

Perhaps we need to ask -- what are they hiding that they are willing to sell out America and the world to hide a secret???