How guns are stolen: "Shooting fish in a barrel"

[applegrove]

Street guns are often stolen from collectors by thieves with easy access to gun clubs and ammunition logs. And that 770 kilogram safe? A joke to determined burglars

Jan. 14, 2006. 08:23 AM
JOHN DUNCANSON AND DALE BRAZAO
STAFF REPORTERS


"CONSECON, Ont.—Lionel Weese, a gun collector and tow truck driver, was at home resting his weary feet when the distress call came.

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Street guns are often stolen from collectors by thieves with easy access to gun clubs and ammunition logs. And that 770 kilogram safe? A joke to determined burglars
Jan. 14, 2006. 08:23 AM
JOHN DUNCANSON AND DALE BRAZAO
STAFF REPORTERS


"CONSECON, Ont.—Lionel Weese, a gun collector and tow truck driver, was at home resting his weary feet when the distress call came.

....Snip

Never one to leave anyone stranded, Weese set out to help the stranger, leaving only his tiny dog to guard the arsenal of handguns and rifles he has been collecting since he was 16 years old. His wife was out at her regular Thursday night bingo.

When he found no stranded motorist, Weese began to suspect a hoax. Then came the panicked cellphone call from a friend telling him his house had been burgled.

Weese rushed home to find thieves had kicked in the side door, ripped open his gun safe, and made off with his prized collection of 23 handguns, including five powerful .45-calibre pistols. The Dec. 8 break-in took less than 20 minutes.

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[Peanutcat]

1. Locked up?

And where's a gun safe when you need one?

[stepnw1f]

2. How About Not Having Them to Start With

and not being part of the problem, but the solution by not perpetuating the consumerism based on fear.

[Redneck Socialist]

6. How's that crystal ball working out for you?

Can you predict the score of the Pats game tonight? I'm hoping you might as you seem to know why Weese collects guns.

[applegrove]

7. It isn't a cristal ball. Police say in the article - collecting is a

dangerous passtime. Perhaps not in the USA where 5% of the gun dealers sell all the illegal guns and get away scot free. But we are trying to do something about a problem. A problem about kids being lost - and taking their whole neighbourhood and all the families there with them.

[stepnw1f]

8. Nope... Just Perpetuating it

through a selfish need to own one. Sure it's pretty and the history behind guns is very compelling, but the end result is always the same, and it's irresponsibility highlights how insane some really are. I see no need for it, whether it be a collection or a paranoid, hiding from commies in East Bumb Fuck.

[Redneck Socialist]

10. Bizarre

I fail understand how you came to believe that owning a gun is a selfish act, or that from what little information is presented in the article, that Weese is/was irresponsible. Neither could I find any indication that Weese is "...paranoid, hiding from commies in East Bumb Fuck."

I do however believe that such attitudes cost us many, many votes every election.

They guy was robbed. I fail to see how that is his fault.

[applegrove]

12. Nobody has charged him. The point is .. it is the reality. What is wrong

with talking about the reality of guns? And then doing something about it?

[Redneck Socialist]

13. I've yet to see much reality interjected in this thread.

Mainly just idle speculation as to Weese's motives for owning guns, speculation that is for the most part derogatory.

The reality, at least as I can determine from the article, is that Weese complied with guns laws in his neck of the woods. As you pointed out the article makes no note of him being charged for violating safe storage laws.

Weese was the victim of a burglary, nothing more, nothing less. Speculating as to why he collected firearms, is just that, speculation. Trying to attach some greater meaning to this crime is IMO equally futile.

In any event I imagine this thread will get kicked to the Gungeon in short order and the usual "guns is bad", "guns is good" suspects will weigh in, and as usual no minds will be changed.

On edit: I'm off to watch the Pat's game so I'll have to pick this up tomorrow. Good night all and GO PATRIOTS!

[applegrove]

14. How bout the article. Does it inject reality into the reality of guns in

Canada?

[Retired AF Dem]

17. I always think about the insane people driving cars

that don't stop for stop lights and stop signs and have killed more people than people using guns have. I personally think that people are getting to stupid to allow them to drive cars, but I know this is off topic.

[juliana24]

23. Cars have a multiple purposes. Guns have only one. Not the Same

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. Works for me!

I don't have to worry about guns being stolen from my house. :woohoo:

[applegrove]

3. Like they couldn't have waited until vacation?

[Pavulon]

4. Lots af press on this guy

little press on the effort to catch the poeople who actually stole his stuff.

People steal explosives, and other things from secured areas.

People stealing is the problem.

[applegrove]

5. No - this is a different guy from last week. Someone with a passion for

guns who feels very sad and guilty that three of his 45s are out there and could, may, destroy lives.

[Pavulon]

9. same canadian. I believe(nt)

[applegrove]

11. Nope. This guy has a job. And he isn't getting welfare in Ontario while

he lives in Florida.

More than two gun collectors.

[Pavulon]

21. you are correct, my mistake(nt)

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19. Lot of press regarding banning handguns and demonizing collectors.

Little (if any), press or talk about some serious hard time for gun thieves and/or criminals caught
with possession of a firearm.

[applegrove]

20. Much talk of everything. But the discussion on social programs &

taxes take place in other forums - eh?

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22. DU (nor it's sub-forums), isn't what I was referring to.

Why isn't the Canadian press and/or Parliament looking elsewhere for a solution?

Why is it that the "victim" is the problem and not the perpetrator?

[applegrove]

24. They are looking at everything. Cause it is a crisis. That is how it

works in most places.

[T Town Jake]

15. Ontario? I thought all the gun laws up there made this kind...

...of thing IMPOSSIBLE.

Say it ain't so!

[applegrove]

16. You thought gun laws stop stealing? Hmm. Perhaps the drug war

should be stopped?

[wadestock]

18. GUNS with deadly size bullets suck

we have the technology to make realistic, usable weapons.
The use of guns...especially with bullets larger than .22...
is neanderthal.
Capitalism gone bad again.