Pass the Word : Don't get SUCKERED by the Republicans

[rpgamerd00d]

Case in point.

- Sen. Kennedy asks for the CAP documents.
- Spectre already knows there is nothing on Alito in them, so tells Kennedy "No."
- This makes Kennedy think he is hiding something, Kennedy goes ballistic, demands them, makes news.
- Due to the "pressure" the documents are released - nothing in them.
- Kennedy eats crow, Dems look bad.

DO NOT FALL FOR THIS AGAIN.

2nd case in point.

- al-Qaeda recruiting AIDS carriers as suicide bombers.
- Some of us post it here, make us look like idiots.

DO NOT FALL FOR THIS AGAIN.

The Republicans have shown that while completely immoral, they are NOT STUPID. They will seed false stories with the EXPRESS PURPOSE that Dems pick them up and run with them, just so they can "reveal the truth" and make us look like IDIOTS.

DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT run with any story unless you:
a) validate it as best you can
b) THINK it THRU to make sure it at LEAST makes sense

[Nitrogenica]

1. Fool me once......

[wadestock]

2. They're patentedly stupid....

The scum have risen to the top.

Don't underestimate their stupidity.

If they had any brains they'd be putting forth "Air Americas" that attempted to bring forth the democratic message...but the way THEY wanted it. Think of how easy that would be.

NO....we are gaining momentum...the world is all against this.
It's become monumentally stupid.
They are greedy.
Because of their relenting greed they can't see anything else.
And....
It should all come to an end in 2008...(starting with dem control of the congress in 2006)

Provided Hillary Clinton drops out of the presidential race.

[Burning Water]

6. They may be stupid

ideologically, but they have vast cunning in the ins and outs of political maneuvering. How else would you describe the fact that they will soon control all three branches of government?

We may win in 2006, but we thought that about 2004, 2002, and 2000, too. I'm not as hopeful as many. It will be hard to take back either the House or the Senate. I'm more worried about 2008, though. I agree with you that Hillary will be a millstone about our electoral necks. But I'm not yet sure who would be better.

[wadestock]

7. Clark

He eloquently states why we should be proud to be democrats like no other I've heard....and you believe him...you don't think it's politics at work.

That's the type of real reincarnation of the American dream that's required.

Why do they control all 3 branches of government?

Because they have worked the system to get elected.
They specifically set out to form an impervious electoral majority by winning over the south and the key red states you see now....on issues that are really non-issues.

Gun control.
Abortion.

And the demonization of liberals by Limbaugh et al which is all lie peddling.

The democratic party was all about governance.
The Reaganites which have come forth are all about tilting the game so they can profit.

[Burning Water]

8. There you go

Why do they control all 3 branches of government?

Because they have worked the system to get elected.
They specifically set out to form an impervious electoral majority by winning over the south and the key red states you see now....on issues that are really non-issues

Why can't the Dems work the system effectively, too?? How do we win over the South and the other red states, or at least enough of them? If people vote on certain issues, then they are not "non-issues", no matter how much we think they are irrelevant to life. We need some way to address them.

What about electoral fraud?? If we know it's going to happen, why can't we stop it beforehand? Shine some light on the problem, and the cockroaches have to scatter. Why can't we do that? Yes, I know the MSM is corporate controlled, but the right uses the Internet and talk radio to great effect. Maybe if we used sound bites like the RW instead of long-winded, logical arguments, that would be effective. I don't know. But if we can put the issue and position simply, somehow? Something that the sheeple have the time to read and the synaptic power to understand??

For example, A lot of the criticism of President Bush that I read, here and elsewhere seems to want to list every crime that he has committed in one long condemnation. Wouldn't it be better to eliminate the redundant verbiage, select one crime to concentrate on. Then follow that up with evidence. The first is just name-calling, no matter how true it may be; the second may make a dent in the political discourse. I don't know, but whatever we're doing now seems rather ineffective to me.

Also, some arguments may not go over too well with certain parts of the electorate. For instance, in the South, I don't think attacks on the Iraq war play as well as they would in Boston, or San Francisco. The South has also been the most martial region of the country. Wouldn't it be better to concentrate on economic issues there? I'm not saying leave voices on the issue completely silent, but where should the emphasis go? On issues where we can make gains, or issues that will alienate the voters that we need? Would you rather be vocally an d publicly right, or would you rather have a Democratic President and Congress? Sometimes practicality must supersede ideological purity, IMO.

Whoops, I ranted longer than I meant to. I'd like answers to my questions though, if anyone has any ideas.

[rucky]

3. Who are we looking stupid for?

anybody we care about?

I'm just saying, don't not say/do something because somebody might think you're stupid. If you think it was right or true to say/do at the time, then you're not stupid.

[neverevergivein]

4. One point I absolutely do agree with you...

I think we tend to "misunderestimate" them too often. On so many levels, they are wrong. They are evil. But alas, they aren't as dumb as many here think they are. If we give them a bit more credit, I think we will win more battles (and ultimately, the war.)

[Burning Water]

10. Friend, I

have been saying this. They keep beating us, politically, over & over. It doesn't matter, in the end, whether they did it honestly or not. They're in; we're out. And that's the bottom line. Of course, we do have that warm, fuzzy feeling of being in the right, but that buys no influence in the Beltway.

[Innocent Smith]

5. CAP documents

A New York Times reporter went through these very documents in November. He had an article in the NYT around Thanksgiving stating that Alito was not mentioned in them. Bad staff work by Kennedy's staff.

[mdmc]

9. Bush is a coked up frat boy that is being used by the

military - industrial complex to create a NWO via PNAC.

None of the shit that you mention has any bearing on how the Dems can best represent us. Sen. Kennedy didn't look bad / eat crow. No one gave a shit.