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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:34 PM
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"The drone, the CIA and a botched attempt to kill bin Laden's deputy"
The drone, the CIA and a botched attempt to kill bin Laden's deputy

Jason Burke and Imtiaz Gul in Islamabad
Sunday January 15, 2006
The Observer

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Yesterday some of the results of the strike were very clear: three ruined houses, mud-brick rubble scattered across the steeply terraced fields, the bodies of livestock lying where thrown by the airblast, a row of newly dug graves in the village cemetery and torn green and red embroidered blankets flapping in the chilly wind. Four children were among the 18 villagers who died in the brutally sudden attack on their homes.

Yet evidence emerging appeared to indicate that, though the technology that guided the missiles to their targets at 3am on Friday was faultless, the intelligence that had selected those targets was not. Even as American military and intelligence sources spoke of the possible death of Ayman al-Zawahiri, the second-in-command of al-Qaeda and the man considered to be the brains behind the militant group's strategy, Pakistani officials said that there was no evidence any 'foreigners', shorthand locally for al-Qaeda fighters, were among the 18 victims, though they said that 'according to preliminary investigations there was foreign presence in the area'.

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But his words did little to calm the anger in and around Damadola, a bastion of conservative religion and tribal chauvinism, and elsewhere in Pakistan. The village lies in the semi-autonomous Bajur tribal region around 120 miles northwest of Islamabad, the Pakistani capital. It is a rugged and desperately poor region, until recently a centre of opium cultivation, where local men habitually go armed and government authority is limited to main roads. Thousands of local men marched in a series of protests yesterday, one crowd attacking the office of a US-funded aid group. In another incident, police were forced to fire tear gas to disperse as many as 400 protesters chanting anti-American slogans and waving banners condemning the Pakistan President, General Pervez Musharraf.

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'This is a big lie... Only our family members died in the attack,' said Shah Zaman, a jeweller who lost two sons and a daughter in the attack. 'They dropped bombs from planes and we were in no position to stop them... or to tell them we are innocent. I don't know . He was not at my home. No foreigner was at my home when the planes came and dropped bombs.' Haroon Rashid, a member of parliament who lives in a village near Damadola, told The Observer that he had seen a drone surveying the area hours before the attack.

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http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,16937,1686918,00.html
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:39 PM
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1. Our "intelligence."
We may be the stupidest nation on earth.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:03 PM
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2. This incident should do
wonders for al Qaeda recruitment. That ole 'uniter' scores again!
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Politus Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:25 AM
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3. Decisive
”When I take action, I'm not going to fire a 2 million dollar missile at a 10 dollar empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive.” -- (George W, Bush, Newsweek, Sep 24, 2001)

No, he did not hit a $10 empty tent. He did not hit a camel in the butt. Today his million-dollar missiles killed eight men, five women, and five children between the ages of 5 and 10. They were all innocents.

God forgive us.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:25 AM
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9. Thanks for preserving that quote. I was thinkining of it too lately.
Also, welcome to DU.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:26 AM
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10. Welcome to DU, Politus...
A distressing thread in which to welcome you, but glad to have you with us, nonetheless.:thumbsup:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:28 AM
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11. The heck with god forgiving us,
I hope the Iraq people can forgive us.

BTW: Welcome to DU :hi:

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:21 AM
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13. No, God forgive George Bush*. HE did this. Not us.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:19 AM
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14. Hi Politus!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:28 AM
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4. The US should be taken to the UN. n/t
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:29 AM
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5. There Has Got To Be A Way To Stop All Of This Already. Too much life
too much innocent life already. It makes me wanna cry with every story like this I read. It is just terrible what this damn regime is doing. We have to stop this DU. Thank god for all of you fighting to stop this mother fucker.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:32 AM
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6. I've already done the Monday and Tuesday cartoons on it.
I don't think I need tell anyone how I'm going to come down on this act of terrorism by the Bush administration.

Harry Belafonte was right about Bush.

By his own count, Bush acknowledged killing over 30,000 Iraqis, to go along with over 2200 Americans. By the time Bush leaves office, he will have been responsible for the deaths of more Americans than Osama.

Sad, but true, to quote Metallica.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:12 AM
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12. Correction. I moved them to Tuesday and Wednesday.
MLK Day is tomorrow, so we did one for the good doctor.

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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:22 AM
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7. OK, let me get this straight...
It's ok to toss a few bombs on Pakistan? Was it ok with Pakistan to do this? So, in other words, it's ok now to toss a few bombs anywhere we want, if the nitwit "thinks" (I use the term loosely, because we know he doesn't do this), there may be a terrorist hiding? Is any country exempt from this policy? Am I missing something here?
:shrug: :crazy:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 08:24 AM
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8. "Four children were among the 18 villagers who died..."
...enough said.:cry:
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