Ummm, hello? Is it just me, or has anybody else noticed that

[samhsarah]

WE ARE ABOUT TO GO TO F*@#ING WAR WITH IRAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead:

[FloridaPat]

1. No it's not just you. Same script as before. Just change the Q to N

[tanyev]

9. The Scrabble War.

[FloridaPat]

31. I like that!

[merbex]

2. Not just you at all - the drums are starting very softly- by Nov

the drums will be so loud for War with Iran that it will be all you can hear. Exact same play book as 2002

The Repugs are hoping that those drums will drown out Abramoff,eavesdropping on Americans, the debacle that is Iraq, and all the other issues that have reall impact on 300 million Americans

Welcome to perpetual war,perpetual drumbeating for war WITHOUT END

[Warpy]

6. Not quite the same play book

I think what will happen is Iran's nuclear facility (or facilities) will be bombed. No matter who actually does it, Israel and the US will be blamed, Iran will cross the border into Iraq to get to both, and our WAH president will have his new WAH to play with.

Since a preemptive war didn't work out quite as they planned, they'll want Iran to cross that border and "attack us first." Sadly, a lot of very stupid people in this country will buy it.

[astonamous]

8. My understanding (and it's limited for sure) is that we have

already been in Iran with special forced (American and Iraqi) causing little disturbances for months now. Just like in Iraq when the Air strikes started months before the official first day of "Shock and Awe".

[FloridaPat]

32. Your understanding is correct.

[driver8]

38. "Nuclear"? I thought it was "nucular"? At least that's how our

"commander in chief" says it.

If the people of the United States fall for this bullshit again, we are all fucked. How can we sustain "two" wars without a military draft?

So far the "war" hasn't caused any "inconvenience" for the people of this country. Start drafting their sons into military service and lets see what happens. The neo-cons are going to fuck themselves with this one. I just hope it's not too late to salvage what is left of our country and our government.

[BlueManDude]

3. it's just the start of the 2006 congressional elections

they won't go to war with iran - they can't. they will go the u.n. route on this one.

more about domestic politics than any concern about iran's nukes.

[atfqn]

39. I would beg to differ.

Israel has made it clear that without certain concessions they will go to war - in March.

Iran will be starting an oil bourse based on the Euro - also in March.

The M3 monetary supply will no longer be published - also in March.

I think it has been made abundantly clear that the US will protect it’s hegemony including and most importantly the value of it’s currency. I expect us to be in no later than April.

[Coexist]

4. Interesting how the Press is willing to give them a pass on this one too

after all the "soul searching" they supposedly did after letting the whole Iraq thing slide.

Too sick to even think about, isn't it.

[astonamous]

5. It was written in the PNAC script.

The only question was, which country?

[wake.up.america]

7. Does bombing the nuclear facilities constitute war?

[KittyWampus]

11. Great question. I"m posting it as a thread

[mdmc]

20. yes

Just as Iran bombing three mile island would constitute war.

[Vanje]

10. yeah. but worse.....i'm VERY worried

I'm worried that Bush administration plans an "event" to get the public behind this new war effort,
an event that will make bush's problems irrelevant. Plame leak indictments, wire-taps, Congress corruption, failure and corruption in Iraq will become immediately irelevant. We wont be hearing about impeachment anymore.
I must be worse than 9/11. Exploding skyscrapers are old news now for us. They'll need to Crank it up a notch or two.

They need a 9-11 type of event, which will 'proove" that the Iranians have nukes, and are happy about using nukes.

Nukes



If it happens between now and November 06 ,it will make midterm elections irrelevant.

Oh. My poor America, I'm afraid were in for some shock and awe.

[bananas]

12. Welcome to DU

Some of us noticed this a long time ago.
It would've happened already if Bolton's appointment hadn't been delayed.

[samhsarah]

13. Thanks! I notice it too, right after we started our illegal war on Iraq,

One of the first things I said was, Iran will be next. But just seeing how public support for one illegal war has dropped off, I guess I took some solace in the idea that with public support where it's at, they will almost certainly have to give up, at least for the time being, on their plans for Iran. Boy was I wrong! It's like the nightmare is starting all over again. And the first one hasn't even ended yet.:scared:

[American liberal]

14. It doesn't seem possible that they can conduct a full-on ground battle in

Iran without reinstating the draft, which would be a shot in the foot to the GOP. I don't get it. And if they drop bombs from the air, how do they know Iran won't retaliate in such a way that would require ground support (which the U.S. already has stretched too thin)? How could they pull it off? Can someone explain this to me? Thanks.

[samhsarah]

15. As far as the details of whatever their plan is,

I don't know. Judging from the Iraq war, they will likely make it up as they go along. But if you have been watching the MSM this week, it is obvious that the orders from the White House and Pentagon have been issued: "may the brainwashing and propaganda begin". Once that happens, as we saw with Iraq, it is only a matter of time.

[Algorem]

16. I thik A Flock Of Seagulls had a song about that I'm pretty sure

[samhsarah]

18. lol

took me a minute, but:rofl:

[Twist_U_Up]

17. heres proof

http://www.bushflash.com/signals.html

[samhsarah]

21. WOW!!!!! Thanks!!

Great link.:thumbsup:

[meganmonkey]

19. You are not alone. And the worst part

is how many people here are falling for it.

Makes me sick.

And sad, so sad. Almost hopeless.

Are these people all going to wait until it starts to protest it? :cry:

[mdmc]

22. They will wait to see their "liberal" Democrats agree with the use of

military force. Here at DU, we will break into anti-war "green" dems vs. DLC+DNC stay the coursers. The end is near when DU bans criticism of Dem enabling of war.

[samhsarah]

23. Has DU done that???

Or do you think that would happen? Not trying to be argumentative. Just that I haven't been a DUer for too long, so I really don't know. Doesn't seem like something that would happen here.

[mdmc]

24. Not to my knowledge

DU hs always been lenient to my own progressive rants... Some folks claim censorship, but I have yet to come across it.

By all accounts, if DU did censor DLC critics, the terrorist will have won.

[samhsarah]

25. That is true.

Let's hope that day never comes.

[mdmc]

26. welcome to DU, by the way...

it really isn't always this DIRE, lol.

[samhsarah]

27. thanks!

and i figured that, lol.:hi:

[bananas]

29. People have been banned for violating the rules

and one of the rules is that you have to support Dem candidates. I think people have been banned for advocating third-party candidates. Also, sometimes people get upset at something a Dem politician does - I think it's ok to say "I won't vote for x again!" but not ok to say "Nobody should vote for x again!"

From the rules:

"Members are expected to ... support Democratic candidates"
"You are not permitted to use this message board to work for the defeat of the Democratic Party nominee for any political office."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

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[newportdadde]

28. Sure ramped up in a hurry didn't it. I guess the oil for euro Iran market

that opens I believe in March may be a reason. Here is something interesting to ponder. Gold is way way up recently and one of the oil funds I'm in which should be sitting on its lows this time of year is damn near its 52 week high it hit back during Katrina.

Make of it what you will but money is being poured into gold right now along with other commodities.

[carolinalady]

30. Seems like this may be a response to the recent Iraqi election.

The religious group that supports Iran wins and all of a sudden the Iranians are an "impending danger".
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
:think:

[Porcupine]

33. Iran can close the Straits of Hormuz and we can't stop them.

So there will be no war. They have cruise missiles provided by China that can't help but hit a supertanker from land-based bunkers. If the straits are closed the US economy is a lost cause.

All bark no bite. No war will happen.

[Barad Simith]

34. "We" and what army?

We currently have 500,000 soldiers in this country - that doesn't include all active military, but does include combat-ready soldiers, which is what would be needed to invade Iran.

That's roughly the same number of soldiers it took to lose Vietnam.

We are not going to war with any country of any substantial size for a long time. The troops we have left are too busy protecting each other from the current civil war in Iraq.

[MidnightWind]

35. And is all of America sleeping or what?

Why doesn't anyone see this but us?

[OneTwentyoNine]

36. Yew HAW!! Get your War on,buy more of those idiot car magnets...

That stupid SOAB hasn't got enough troops to take care of a country that didn't even have a FUCKING MILITARY!! What the hell could we do in Iran??

[FreedomAngel82]

37. And what I want to know

is just how are they going to do that pray tell? All of our military is in Iraq! Nobody will help them because nobody believes them.