Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Sun Jan-15-06 06:36 PM
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You know it, I know it the American people know it. The President knows it. The world knows it. The journalists know it.
The number of jobs created hasn't made the tiniest little chink in the number you need to just tread water, not to mention out sourcing, not to mention down-sizing, not to mention under employment, not to mention replacing high paid manufacturing jobs with low wage service jobs, not to mention the dismantlement of the pension system, not to mention the deficit.
Wages have NOT kept up with the rising costs of rents, credit, utilities, gasoline for your car, property taxes and health care. Your paycheck is shrinking in real dollars every single week. Tell me you don't know this. And yet, our moron-in-chief is completely comfortable going on television and telling the American public that the economy is just fantastic. Just one more Big Lie. Are people so gullible that they believe this crap?
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Sun Jan-15-06 06:37 PM
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some do.......most don't. In part, because most are struggling like hell to keep their heads above water.
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Sun Jan-15-06 06:40 PM
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2. Oh, but David Drier told Bill Maher that this is the best economy in... |
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...the history of the nation.
Why do you hate America??
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NGU.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Sun Jan-15-06 06:41 PM
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3. That's exactly what I'm talking about! Disgusting deceit. nt |
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Sun Jan-15-06 06:42 PM
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4. More people working than ever before |
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Of course there are more people than ever before....and does working at a minimum wage job really count?
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Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Sun Jan-15-06 06:50 PM
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6. That is because - in order to stay even |
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with your percentages of amount of employed per capita,and to employ people new to the marketplace (people turning 18, new immigrants, etc.) it has always been my understanding that you need approx 250,000 jobs a month to absorb the influx. Anything less than that than you are actually looking at an overall loss of employment per capita. There will probably ALWAYS be more people working than every before - duh! But that gross number is not the number to be looking at. Also cooking the governments books is the fact that they do not count the under-employed or the long-term unemployed who have simply been dropped off the rolls after their benfits have expired.
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Sun Jan-15-06 07:04 PM
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11. Yup,More people working than ever before....at substandard wages |
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Hell,everytime Walmart cranks out another Super Center they'll need another 200-300 slaves to toil for the Walton task masters at $5.15 per hour.
Yup,more people working than ever before--most working TWO jobs.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Sun Jan-15-06 07:18 PM
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12. And where they don't even get healthcare for cripes sakes until some |
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ungodly length of qualifying time ( I think it was a reported 2 years!)I was glad to see that little gambit exposed by the state of Maryland this week who passed a law requiring WalMart to spend a specified amount towards their employees healthcare. The state of Maryland decided they were through being a patsy for WalMart as so many of their workers had to have state subsidized benefits. Why should the state of Maryland and its taxpayers fund with their taxes the healthcare of WalMart employees? Maybe some other states could wake up and look into this. You pay taxes - and when your taxes are used to subsidize WalMart, those dollars have to be made up from somewhere - in the form of higher property taxes or sales tax or tuition in state colleges or user fees or whatever.
Taxpayers get no free rides - but corporations do. Congratulations to the State of Maryland for standing up to WallyWorld!!
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Sun Jan-15-06 06:49 PM
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5. My method of measuring the economy |
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is to count the number of columns of Help Wanted in the local newspaper. It has gone from fifteen columns four years ago to two or three recently.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse
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Sun Jan-15-06 06:52 PM
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7. Again, an excellent common sense measure |
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When the economy is booming, opportunities abound. When it is stagnant you see the reduction in ads like you are seeing. Are you making that up? Doesn't everyone in your area know that jobs (and especially good jobs) are few and far between?
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Sun Jan-15-06 06:55 PM
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8. wages vs the costs of the economy have been declining since the 70's? |
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i believe someone posted that figure here just the other day.
and still they persist in telling us how shipping our jobs to other countries is good for us.
now along with your two jobs get your ass to night school.
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Sun Jan-15-06 07:00 PM
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9. DU needs and Economist to comment and sift the data |
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Gene Sperling, Senior fellow, Center for American Progress from the Clinton White House is an economic adviser i'd like to see here. We could donate and he'd keep us updated and so often come here and answer questions.
We need that to counter BushCo propaganda.
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Sun Jan-15-06 07:01 PM
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10. Being unemployed, let me second that |
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back in the 90's I couldn't be unemployed for 24 hours if I wanted to - someone was always offering me a job, and willing to pay me $15k more than the last one paid. Now I've been looking for a month, had a few interviews but no luck yet, and the few ones I've had want to pay in the minus $15K or more range. I live in the Washington, D.C. area, for crissakes, so you know my mortgage is costing a hell of a lot.
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Sun Jan-15-06 07:29 PM
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13. Same here on the 90's I'ved been out of work 15 of the last 24 months. |
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Out of work now too. Computer programming is top of the transfer to overseas. Market is improving right now. I need about 6 more months of work to retire. Once I get my mortgage paid off, that's it. I'm out.
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Sun Jan-15-06 07:31 PM
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15. And it's not just programming; |
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applications that 'write the code' are in vogue these days too.
Offpeopling. It's going to be bad...
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Sun Jan-15-06 09:06 PM
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16. Happy for you for that |
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for me it's not going to happen that way. I might have to make a major career move/get a master's degree whatever. I'll try and hold on to my tiny little condo if I can, if not I'll sell this summer and buy an RV or something the cats and I can live in.
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Sun Jan-15-06 07:31 PM
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14. Recession. This is 1991 all over again. nt |
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Mon Jan-16-06 07:18 AM
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17. Good Morning! Yep, it still sucks today too. Probably will tomorrow. nt |
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