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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:49 PM
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Poll question: Will Gore call for * to be impeached tomorrow?
Edited on Sun Jan-15-06 10:50 PM by IndyOp
The topic of his speech is Constitutional Crisis.

His boss was impeached for inappropriate use of breath mints.

His Presidency was stolen from him by the * Family Evil Empire and more and more people know this.

Al has been hot, hot, hot in regards to * having used and abused the nation's trust after 911.

He has the guts - will he do it?

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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:53 PM
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1. Nope, no cajones
Not gonna happen.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:32 PM
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23. listen to him rip the admin on TORTURE ------------ > mp3
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:38 PM
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27. Good tape! Loved that speech. Like the pic from Katrina
very much, too -- :toast:
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coldiggs Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:54 PM
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2. I think there still needs to be some ducks put in line before you will be
seeing hight profile dems calling for impeachment. We need to see what happens with the investigations that are still going on. We need to get all the ammo we can before we make a move like that.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:56 PM
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4. Welcome to DU - Coldiggs...
We have * on record saying that he would only wiretap with court permission; then saying that he had wiretapped without court permission and that he would continue to no matter what anyone said.

As far as I am concerned there are a dozen other issues that he should be impeached for - but I think, legally, the wiretapping without FISA permission is a slam dunk.

:kick:
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:54 PM
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3. no way he calls for impeachment
it would be just too impolite, and make the DLC unhappy.
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:57 PM
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5. If he walks the walk, he will
The 43rd President of the United States, Al Gore, knows he screwed up in 2001. He's making up for that grave mistake in the only way he knows how, by speaking truth to power. Yes, I fully expect him to call for impeachment.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:02 PM
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9. He could not do it alone in 2001 - where were the 10,000 Dems who
were supposed to be standing behind him? I think Gore held on until he could not hold on any longer. By focusing on him as 'the problem' we are missing the opportunity to be forward-thinking - what MUST happen in 2006 and in 2008 to stop election theft by the GOP.

I think he will, at the least, call for investigations that should lead to impeachment -
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:58 PM
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6. I voted 75% for... He has the guts, the only issue remaining is
whether he believes they have a slam dunk case and/or whether he believes that it is the right strategy for him to do so. Someone MUST shake DC out of its stupor and Al can do it. He will do it if he thinks it is the right thing to do - f*** the DLC - his country is on the line.

:kick: :kick: :kick:
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Petreader Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:59 PM
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7. Gore
is a whimp. He will just blather on....
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:04 PM
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11. Welcome to DU? Do you tread on pets as well as humans, Petreader?
:(
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:18 AM
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:00 PM
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8. I hope he calls for riots and looting. I need a new plasma TV
Buy Blue. Loot Red. Don't register the warranties.

That's a satirical riff.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:20 PM
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20. In a real Banana Republic where the economy is in the tank
Edited on Sun Jan-15-06 11:22 PM by 0007
Riots and lotting and National strikes are the front runner.

It appears we're heading in that direction.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:33 PM
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24. Seriously though, I'm ready for a national strike and civil disobedience
It's never a good idea to advocate rioting and looting.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:40 PM
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31. If that's what it takes. so be it!
I want these criminals brought before justice.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:03 PM
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10. I don't think he will do it tomorrow, but he will come close.
Reason: He knows that this is a congressional decision, and they have to have the will to do it.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:05 PM
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12. An independent agent like Gore can PUSH Congress to
Do the Right Thing! I don't know if he will, just saying that he could play that role.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:08 PM
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13. call the mother out, call a spade a spade
Edited on Sun Jan-15-06 11:08 PM by FogerRox
SOoo many other calls for impeachment by retired politicians, GOre is just that -- for now-- shh!

Come on AL, Kick his ass

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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:10 PM
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14. Well, we'll see! I'll be watching on CSPAN.
(wish I could be there)
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:13 PM
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16. It is sold out - has been since pretty early this morning -
maybe earlier than that even...

:bounce:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:12 PM
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15. Why not let's go all out?
Edited on Sun Jan-15-06 11:17 PM by IndyOp
Call a *war criminal* a *war criminal*

Call a *thief* a *thief*

Call a *liar* a *liar*

TELL IT LIKE IT IS!!!

We need some truth, a big bracing, slap across the face with Alspice, kind of truth.

Just this morning John McLaughlin was calling the Dems pusillanimous--let's make him eat those words.
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x144794>


On Edit: I've never fully internalized that "i" before "e" except after "c" rule... :)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:36 PM
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26. Calling for impeachment is not going "All Out"
Edited on Sun Jan-15-06 11:37 PM by IanDB1
To really go "All Out" would be to call on The American People and all organs of The Government to recognize John Kerry as the legitimate President of the United States, and to refuse to take orders from George W. Bush or his regime.

Now that would be "All Out."

I'm not saying that he should do this.


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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:15 PM
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17. Sorry, but I don't think he will.
Although he should along with everyone else. But if he does, the whorish media will call him a sore loser like they always do although he was the actual winner. But I hope I am wrong.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:17 PM
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18. I believe he will n/t
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:19 PM
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19. 20 Votes "Maybe or Definitely Yes"; 19 Votes "Definitely Not"
Just needed to put a happy face on what I am experiencing as depressing poll results. I thought y'all would lean "Yes" more strongly...

:shrug:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:28 PM
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21. Indy, if he calls for impeachment- then I think it means he will NOT
be considering the presidency.

What do you think?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:35 PM
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25. If he acts boldly, indicating he is not trying out for Preznit...
He is, in my book - all the more electable. Though my book is definitely not the one that everyone else is reading from...

We have to get the system to work (one person, one vote, fair count) before any Dem can be Pres.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:38 PM
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28. Agree- the system has to be fixed.
(I like your bad-ass donkeys)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:30 PM
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22. 85% have no doubts. Fascinating.
It must be nice to be so certain regarding such things. :eyes: :puke:

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:40 PM
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30. Maybe people attracted to the title of the poll were already decided ?
Then again polls with extremes of 0% and 100% probably pull people toward the extremes...

Then again, maybe we aren't any more nuanced in our reasoning abilities than the Freepers...

HA! Just kidding! :rofl:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:46 PM
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32. If I ever felt more than 80% certain of anything even remotely political
... I'd probably consult a shrink. Probably ... but I can't be sure. :shrug:
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:39 PM
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29. Whatever he says will be awesome, so I don't really care; but...
I think he will or will come VERY close. I also think he will lay out the case in clear, precise language with an outrage that will be a wonder to behold. He became a true statesman in 2000, when the Dem Party quit on him, when the Repukes and the Supreme Injustices screwed him and all of us. Since then he's spoken out consistently and passionately about the abuses of our little tin-pot dictator and his minions of evil. He's been dead on every time. This is going to be so good.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:51 PM
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33. What if all he says is that he's going to shave his beard? n/t
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:52 PM
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34. Will it make a difference whether he does or doesn't? NT
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:56 PM
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35. It may make a difference if he does -
In my opinion, we need to ramp the rhetoric UP, way UP...

Shoot the nomination of Alito down -
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:57 PM
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36. My specteration is that this
will be step one of a two step program. He will use everything but the word placing all the felonies in perspective. It will be heat the republicans don't need and won't like facing them as soon as they get their ass back to work.

It will be the layed out factual case and call to arms. If congress doesn't find it uncomfortable enough, and as soon as the multitude of all the investigations reaching the boiling point start showing the further crimes, I believe he will be back with step two calling it, "Impeachment is Required."

The sweat and spit tomorrow will indeed be flying.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:35 AM
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40. That would make sense - I could dance a 2-step with Al
But, DAMN, Part 2 has got to be soon - we must scream out the news that the Emperer has no clothes - loud enough that we break through Grand Canyon Dam of denial the media exists behind.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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CrazyForKucinich Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:13 AM
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37. If he were...I can't possibly see how MSM could ignore it.
Which would probably lead into Conyers' efforts and we may have some progress.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:32 AM
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39. If Gore calls for impeachment - we enter a whole new realm...
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 09:33 AM by IndyOp
:bounce: :kick:
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:53 AM
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41. In Gore We Trust
I did not vote in the above poll, because we will know the answer soon enough.

However, I doubt that Gore sees his job as telling Democrats in Congress what they should be doing. Personally I am not sure what would be the point of launching an impeachment process in a Congress where the Republicans are in the majority (both houses).

Much better for Al Gore to raise awareness and highlight issues which show that Bush is not respecting the Constitution, and at the same time he is a bad President, failing to take the action that is necessary to deal with the challenges facing America.

Gore has always stood up for respecting the Constitution. In the end that is why he accepted the Supreme Court's ruling to stop the Florida re-count, even though - like he said at the time - he did "strongly disagree" with the Supreme Court's ruling.

The best strategy now for the Democrats is to use the wiretapping and other issues (like the claims about WMD in Iraq) to undermine public faith in the Bush Administration between now and the Congressional elections in November. The best way we can punish the Republicans is by taking away their seats and overturning their majorities in the House and Senate.

Trust the people and let the people decide. Like it or not, that is the Democratic way. Especially - if, like me, you believe that the people chose Gore as their President in November 2000.

I also hope that Democrats have the good sense to realize that nobody else could be a better candidate for President in 2008, and so we must BEG Al Gore to lead us into that fight.

But first we have the mid-term elections this year. My hunch is that Gore will see this as the best way to fight back, even if he does not focus on it today.

In Gore We Trust
www.algore-08.com
http://algore2008.net /
:)
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:16 AM
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42. Apollo - The GOP is busy stealing election 2006 *right now* -
the only way your strategy will work is if the Dems, between now and then, show so much spine that they will be in excellent condition to stand and FIGHT when elections are stolen.

The point of launching an impeachment process is to get the Rethugs to back down, way, way down from their stance of "Party Uber Alles" (party above all) -- shake them, shake them hard until the details of how the GOP culture of corruption funded election thefts in 2000, 2002, 2004 all come out, until they lose their nerve to try and steal 2006.

The old rules don't apply until our democracy is restored - :(
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:38 PM
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43. 41% of DUers who had NO DOUBT whatsoever were totally wrong.
How can so many absolutely certain people be so totally and completely wrong? I sure hope such thinking doesn't find itself on any jury affecting me or mine.
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