Iraqi Speaker: "What can we say to the American forces who killed 100,000"

[sabra]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-2240354,00.html

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Both the Iraqi President and the speaker of the Iraqi Parliament told The Times yesterday that while the US will have the ultimate say over who gets pardoned, Iraqi politicians — Shia, Sunni and Kurd — generally supported an amnesty for those who have killed foreign soldiers. Those who have killed Iraqi civilians will be treated as murderers.

"The one who put the bomb to kill the occupier is different from the one who put a bomb to kill an innocent human being. What can we say to the American forces who killed 100,000 Iraqis? This reconciliation is between the different sectors in Iraq," said Mahmud al-Mashaadani, the speaker of the Iraqi Parliament.

"General amnesty for Iraqis who did not commit grave crimes means everyone. But those who killed American soldiers and others they are a special case," said Mr Talabani. "It must be discussed with the Americans. If they want those people to be included, it would be good. If not, this is another thing."

[Greeby]

1. Sorry Mr.Speaker

I don't regard young men and women essentially drafted by poverty or the promise of college education to be "guilty"
Especially not the National Guard troops who have no business being in ANY foreign war zone, let alone this one

[atreides1]

3. They volunteered

A draft is mandatory, they did not have to enlist, they chose to. The duties of the National Guard changed way back in WWI, ever heard of the Rainbow Division, it consisted of NG units all the way from New York to Alabama.

The National Guard was also deployed during WWII, and Korea, and Vietnam, so history refutes your
assumption that National Guard troops have no business being in a foreign war zone.

As for being guilty, that's a matter of opinion, and only history will reveal the final judgment.

[NNN0LHI]

4. Suppose someone told you they wanted to go kill Canadians for a living?

That is kill Canadians for the promise of a good education and a pay check?

Or how about someone else in another country who hired on to a job of coming over here to kill Americans for the same reasons?

Would you consider those people guilt free too?

Don

[fasttense]

6. In that case, you should hold every American citizen guilty

of collaborating with murderers. Americans voted in these bush boys who love war. Did anyone believe when the dancing supremes selected bush that he was Not going to use the industrial war machine at his disposal? The man loves to kill and loves to have others kill in his name. We Americans voted in these war boys. Even though the vote was rigged we were responsible for letting it happen. We were responsible for doing it again in 2004. We did not stop them. We knew what the bush war boys were up to.

If you hold our troops responsible you hold all American citizens responsible for allowing it to happen.

[NNN0LHI]

7. I think you may be confused?

Neither I or every American volunteered to let these thugs get into power.

I was against it as a matter of fact.

Don't you see the difference?

We are victims just like the Iraqis are. They didn't sign up for none of this either.

Don

[fasttense]

8. We are not victims. We let it happen.

You and I allowed the system to be rigged. You and I did not protest when the Supremes took away our right to vote. Am I missing something? Was there a protest march on Washington when our rightfully elected President was pushed aside in favor of bush*? Did I miss the protests when the supremes decided Not to count votes? Because we ignored the power in our hands, we allowed this imbecile of a man to take control of our government and he started a war. Like no one saw that coming.

Were all German citizens victims of Hitler?

[Dhalgren]

2. Iraq will never achieve peace unless it grants full amnesty to all

insurgents - period. I can't understand how anyone thinks otherwise. Supposedly, Iraq is not there for the US; supposedly, the US is there for Iraq. Iraqis who have fought against the occupation must be granted amnesty for their actions - they will be, after all, heroes to the Iraqis in the future. In the movies made by Iraqis in the future, the US will be the Nazis and John Wayne will have a beard and be called Ali...

[madokie]

5. I agree with you