Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Congress May Bestow Unchecked Spying Powers on President

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 12:57 PM
Original message
Congress May Bestow Unchecked Spying Powers on President
Congress May Bestow Unchecked Spying Powers on President
*by Catherine Komp

June 23 – While dozens of lawsuits challenging the Bush administration’s warrantless surveillance of Americans slowly move through the courts, the Senate Judiciary Committee is poised to consider legislation that would effectively legalize the practice.


Your privacy is strictly respected. Civil-rights advocates and constitutional-law experts say several proposed bills attempt to "whitewash" executive wrongdoing before Congress has the opportunity to conduct hearings and gather the facts surrounding the National Security Agency’s involvement in warrantless wiretapping and telecommunications data mining.

........................

Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Arlen Specter (R-Pennsylvania) introduced the "National Security Surveillance Act" (S.2453) last March, which he followed with a substitute proposal in May.

The legislation would amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and establish new "procedures for the review of electronic surveillance programs." FISA, which was expanded under the 2001 USA PATRIOT Act, was first established in 1978 to define the procedures and set up special courts to oversee the gathering of foreign intelligence through physical and electronic surveillance.

http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/3328
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:02 PM
Response to Original message
1. What do they mean, "may bestow?"
We all know it's going to happen, and there seems to be very little we can do about it. :grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:03 PM
Response to Original message
2. Your privacy is strictly respected?
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: What Privacy? They spy on my phone conversations, my physical whereabouts, my person, my internet usage, they legislate their way into my choice of who I may marry, how I may become intoxicated, they intrude into virtually every aspect of my life all the while claiming they are for less Government involvement into personal matters. To hell with them all!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:11 PM
Response to Original message
3. If American troops are 'fighting for our freedoms', when do they invade
DC and haul off these traitors?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. It is just possible that this may one day happen.
I think that the military is increasingly concerned about how they are being used, and if things get bad enough, they may just take action. The WH and the average high-ranking military commander aren't too fond of each other these days, methinks. And increasingly these military commanders seem to be less and less afraid to speak their minds.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:36 PM
Response to Original message
5. "Everything Hitler did was legal (under German law) too"
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 01:38 PM by Solly Mack
MLK, JR. said that, btw. To make a point...governments can and will oppress legally


So - some - members of Congress are trying to legalize the crimes of Bush... that makes them complicit and just as guilty as the Bush Regime.

Can't be charged for a crime when you have a body of government so willing to legalize crimes you commit

I would define a Constitutional crisis as 3 corrupt branches of government. No checks and balances. No way of holding government accountable.

If Congress is making the criminal legal, then that's not a checks and balance and that's not holding Bush accountable. And no one with the power to do so is holding members of Congress accountable for legalizing the crimes of Bush.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:37 PM
Response to Original message
6. Why not just sign the 2006 Enabling Act and get it over with...
Just install the blatant fascist regime they want, let the chips fall where they may.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:38 PM
Response to Original message
7. Don't forget now ---- Home Grown Terrorist
and we need to find them here in the US.. Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Timothy McVeigh - Homegrown Terrorist - Right-Wing Christian
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 01:40 PM by Beelzebud
Eric Rudolph - Abortian Clinic Bomber - Right Wing Christian

Never forget.

The ONLY true home-grown terrorists have been right-wing christians.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. You know that phrase is going to
give him the ammunition he needs to spy on all us....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Agreed. Welcome to the Fascist States of America.
May I see your walking papers?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Or your national I.D.
Second question--- Who did you vote for in the last election?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. I voted for Kerry!
*holds out hands for handcuffs*

Sorry, just had to lighten the mood a little here. :P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:39 PM
Response to Original message
8. Do the crime, pass the law to make it legal...SOP nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:40 PM
Response to Original message
10. WTF? He claims he already has this power, they should be investigating him
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:49 PM
Response to Original message
14. then they're breaking the law too
not to mention totally failing to do the jobs they were elected to do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 01:50 PM
Response to Original message
15. It's official - the US is now a fascist dictatorship
Hell why dont we just sign a law prohibiting Americans from moving out of the country while we're at it? :argh:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. I have seen posters around here convincingly claim . . .
that mechanisms are in place to do just that if they wanted to use them. :scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 12:33 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC