Are you catching these interviews with neighbors and family in Miami?

[bigtree]

There's one on MSNBC now, with the sister of one of the men accused of a 'terror plot' She asys they are a religous group helping the community.

The descriptions and characterizations on the ground, as reported on the television news, don't match up with the FBI accusations. The keyhole shot on CNN which showed the inside of the 'warehouse' panned to a wall with certificates. According to earlier reports, those were certificates of learning in sciences and other basic learning that the organizers of the group had created for their membership. The warehouse was described by the residents in the area as a place where the men went to pray. A man who said he knew 'Brother Sunni' well (pronounced by him as 'sunny'), told the reporter that the group was formed as an alternative to the crime and violence in the area. The 'military garb', he said, was actually karate garb, a defensive art. Many in the community said they felt safer by the presence of the men according to one reporter.

Most of the contradicting detail is not yet appearing in print.

[Virginia Dare]

1. Yes, but...

these friends and neighbors are just poor black people, right?
:sarcasm:

[sandnsea]

2. What was that Muslim group in CA?

Does anybody remember that story about the Muslim groups in California that were formed to protect neighborhoods? I can't remember the details, something about a liquor store I think, and a fight or something. Sometime over this past winter. This sounds kind of like that, like a Guardian Angels type thing, only Muslims.

[Ganja Ninja]

3. Something tells me this is all going to end up as ...

another government terror hoax like the one in Buffalo. No convictions or even trials just a handy distraction to get peoples mind off bad news.

[flordehinojos]

4. it would just be too painful to watch all their bold faced lies.

i refuse to become a masochist, though i must be a sadist since i love to inflict verbal pain on the bush crap.

[underpants]

5. I don't know whose black people to believe CNN's or Fox's

CNN had the guy on who said they were a martial arts group who sold shampoo on the street and had no money and read the Bible.


Fox had two people on who, very reasonably, were upset to hear that there might be terrorists in their neighborhood.

[VolcanoJen]

9. So, were they Muslim, as the MSM suggests... or....

... were they "church-going Catholics," as one of the mothers of a suspect insists?

CNN needs to get their shit together on this pretty important point.

[katty]

14. sounds like the recent London roundup bust

[Joanne98]

6. I know! It's a total sham,

[VolcanoJen]

7. Kyra Phillips had some cute comments about the "Warehouse Lair."

She said, "As you can see, the windows are boarded up somehow, it looks like steel, so that nobody could see inside."

Ummm... Kyra, hon? They were in a warehouse. Usually, warehouses don't have windows. Just sayin'.

[wallwriter]

8. Don' forget the recent news that Gonzalez

was about to be called before Congrerss to testify on data mining (I believe). This is a total distraction. There may very well be dangerous people planning terror in the U.S., but I bet our government has no idea (or concern) who they real ones are.

[roguevalley]

10. when this turns out as bogus as Moussaiou (Spelling) and the

people in Cally, what then? they needed toscare people again and so they ruined these people's lives. I don't believe anything anyone says anymore.

[spanone]

11. Where the hell did CNN get that 'keyhole' shot?? I call bullshit.

So the FBI just let CNN walk up to the door and poke their camera in on the warehouse? Why is not Alberto Gonzales accusing CNN of jeopardizing national security? Something stinky going on here.

[mavoix]

12. Are you catching these interviews with neighbors and family in Miami?

As the saying goes, if they want to indict/convict a ham sandwich, they can do it. I would bet my bottom million dollars (if I had them...I'll have to be satisfied with 'my bottom dollar') that these seven brothers are completely innocent. Have any of you ever heard of Yahweh ben Yahweh? They did to him what they're trying to do now to these men. And in regard to 'Brother Sunni', it sounds like his name was adopted from one of the African languages, probably Swahili. More later.

[underpants]

15. Welcome to DU-they sound like Black Jews to me

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1494032

[bigtree]

18. the family and neighbors pronounced it 'sunny'

[katty]

13. didn't Karl give them the talking points yet?

[Southsideirish]

16. Any poop on the informant yet?

[bigtree]

17. not yet. still parroting the line that it's an informant

they stopped saying 'agent'. I imagine its a shady figure that they'll try to shield. No mention of wiretaps. It must be their main source of the statements they allege