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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:57 AM
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McCain DEFENDS bombing raid: "Sorry, but it's a war on terror."
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 12:58 AM by Bluebear
SENIOR US senator John McCain has lamented the loss of innocent life during a US bombing raid in Pakistan, but said such casualties were unavoidable as Washington robustly pursued its "war on terror".

"It's terrible when innocent people are killed, he said. " We regret that. But we have to do what we think is necessary to take out Al-Qaeda, particularly the top operatives."

"We regret it. We understand the anger that people feel, but the United States' priorities are to get rid of al-Qaeda, and this was an effort to do so," the Republican lawmaker said.

"We apologize, but I can't tell you that we wouldn't do the same thing again."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17835401-1702,00.html?from=rss
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:58 AM
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1. " Sorry, but it's ww2"
- Hitler commenting on the bombing of London.


Now I don't know if Hitler ever said that, but it seems to me there is never a good reason for killing innocent people.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:14 AM
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16. I love your post. nt
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:00 AM
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2. People like McCain are why we lost the Vietnam War
Yeah, saddle up. I'm stepping up the anti-McCain rhetoric.

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:45 AM
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20. i thought it was lost with the fictional gulf of tonkin incident?
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 01:46 AM by LSK
You cant win a war that was based on lies.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:00 AM
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3. The military didn't "do what was necessary", you f*ck
What was necessary was to send in a patrol and find out for sure.

The United State's priorities are to get rid of al Qaeda, but make sure that innocent lives bear the burden of proof.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:03 AM
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4. McCain . . .
. . . you stupid old man.

You should've learned some things by now.

After what you went thru in Nam . . . how can you not understand?


You are a Master of War and I don't know how you can sleep at night.


I'm off to bed.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:05 AM
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5. "Sorry we've got to kill you, P.O.W. McCain, but this is war."
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 01:06 AM by Straight Shooter
Yeah, the war on terror excuses every inhumane thing we do, doesn't it. I swear, that man has not been right in the head since he got back from Nam. And I'm not being flippant when I say that, either.

edit to add quotation marks, the captors to McCain
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SushiFan Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:05 AM
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6. I heard him and couldn't believe my ears!
He seems SO VERY concerned about the US torturing "suspected" "terrorists" at military bases. But this is only because he was a POW himself.


He's a heartless and cold GOPig with a self-centered point of view as he played up the "search" for "terrorists" at the expense of the HORRENDOUS deaths of babies and others in Pakistan due to a stupid mistake of intelligence by the Bushies.


His true colors showed today, as well as his own lack of "intelligence" and the BA's equally lack of intelligence in this and all matters, as we've seen so far.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:06 AM
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7. Can't just go bombing in any country you feel like
Next, they'll be dropping bombs on Norway incase Osama Bin Laden is taking a cruise up the fjord! (Norway has oil by the way).
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:07 AM
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8. Soooo,
Which country can indiscriminately start bombing Indiana for enemies? Why are we held to no standard but others could never do such a thing?

(no offense to hoosiers)
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:08 AM
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9. Almost as tragic is these people don't seem to get is that
we can not risk a revolt in Pakistan. A few million pissed off muslims with a nuke is not something worth seeing.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:46 AM
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21. Wouldn't be surprised if that's EXACTLY what they're fishing for. n/t
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:51 AM
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22. I wondered that too but I don't want to speculate. Its
hard to see how it benefit these guys to turn Pak against us. We need them in the region. They are an ally
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:10 AM
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24. That's assuming that they actually want to win the war on terra.
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 02:11 AM by Crunchy Frog
I'm not convinced that they're not out to just keep things stirred up and maintain a perpetual war and a sense of constant threat among the American people. If that's what they're real agenda is, then it is in their interest to turn Pakistan against us. In case you haven't noticed, these guys don't care about allies, but they really like having good enemies.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:26 AM
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30. Sorry they aren't an ally. It's an unstable society
whose leadership was bribed with a few billion dollars in military aid and debt relief. The people dislike the US greatly.

I agree that this kind of thing is stupid though. Our intelligence was likely fed by the Pakistani ISI, which has a definete interest in causing unrest in the country. That's what they are known for.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:52 PM
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37. The Leadership is an Ally, the pak people an enemy
What I not getting is why these people are promoting this in the media like they are and making statements in support. Whats up with McCain?
Seems like Wag the DOg
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:08 AM
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10. On one hand, he's the president...
...but on the other, he's soft and warm and smells like reeking perspiration. So what are ya gonna do? If you're John McCain, you HUG him for spreading false rumors of your illegitimate black daughter who is neither "illegitimate" nor "black."

It's a filthy job, but McCain's more than happy to do it.

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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:20 AM
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29. Damn, what a waste of flesh
and bone. Bastards.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:09 AM
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11. that is a disgusting pic!!
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:11 AM
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12. "The United States' priorities are to get rid of al-Qaeda." Oh, really?
Then maybe they could start by trying to get their number ONE guy for a fucking change.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:13 AM
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14. Exactamundo.
One ridiculous statement after the other and nobody in the media asks "Where's bin Laden?" We only seem to be interested in "#2" or "#5" etc.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:12 AM
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13. We're KING of the WORLD & We're hunt'n TERRORIST! ssshshhhhHHH!!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:13 AM
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15. So if Bush was a
democrat would he still be kissing his ass?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:24 AM
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17. So I guess if they drop a bomb on his house by accident it's okay
too. Afterall, it's all for the sake of war.
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:37 AM
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18. Get this thru your big head McCain,
No matter if it's the Towers of NYC or the mud-caked huts of some Pakistani village in the middle of nowhere, the bombing deaths of innocent people is an evil atrocity.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:43 AM
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19. Maybe al-Qaeda
feels the same way about killing innocent Americans. Just a thought.

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:06 AM
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23. Americans are living proof that terrorists shouldn't be allowed...
...access to weapons of mass destruction.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:27 AM
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25. So this gives us the excuse to blow people up to bits???!!!
No wonder people hate us! :mad: :grr: :mad: :grr: :mad:
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:40 AM
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26. Brokeback McCain!
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:46 AM
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27. I guess Castro can
send in an airstrike to wherever the US is holding Posada Carriles then.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:13 AM
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28. "The war on terror has no boundries..."
so sayeth John McCain, Bush's poodle puppy. No boundries when it comes to bombing sovereign coutries, no boundries bombing the US Constitution, torture, no boundries regarding international laws, treaties or incarceration without legal recourse of people of any country including US citizens. No boundries respected by dictators.
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LiberalInGeorgia2005 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:27 AM
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31. With this and when McCain votes to confirm Alito...
can we please stop with the "moderate McCain" BS?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:30 AM
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32. McCain you are a dumbfuck
The real problem here is clear, the intelligence the military is receiving blows.

Maybe instead of being a coldhearted bastard saying, 'oops...Too bad', you should atleast pledge to improve the way the US gathers intelligence - maybe stop relying on factioning warlords or the ISI, which has a definite goal in destabilizing the nation.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:43 AM
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33. I wonder if dumbshit McCain realizes that without the cooperation
from Pakistan that we are unlikely to find bin Laden?
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:50 AM
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34. I am hanging my head....
Danm it sucks. I would rather hold my head up HIGH!!!! Are there and DEM Senators willing to meet my eyes? My daughter is the one who should thank you.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:06 AM
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35. "Do the same thing again". Maybe here in Germany, my neighboring
village, because "Western intelligence" has been "informed" that an "Islamist" is "hiding out" there. Why not? We're an ally, too (unfortunately), and we have a large muslim minority.

God (or whoever, for the non-believing) help us all. I'm very afraid. Attack on Iran becomes more and more possible... I see a bleak future.

-------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:25 AM
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36. He has sold his soul...
now he's just a pathetic, little man.

Peace.
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VonDoomPhd Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:07 PM
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38. Bah!
When push comes to shove McCain is still a soldier.
Soldiers follow orders (see: Powell)

When are these factually-challenged shills going to stop referring to Al-Queda as if it's an army with fixed numbers and a hierarchical integration of authority? Going after Al-Queda is like going after The Anti-War crowd. There is no one Anti-War organization.
Little misrepresentations like this lead to ridiculous fever-dreams by the sincerely ignorant along the lines of "Will There Be A Parade When We Finally Defeat Al-Queda?"

Ridiculous.

(by the bye, love the DU board, first post, etc.)
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:28 PM
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40. Welcome to DU.
Good first post.:hi:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:00 PM
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42. Good to have you, Dr.
Welcome to DU!
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:28 PM
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39. OK, Johnny Mac, Explain this.....

SINCE WHEN THE FUCK ARE WE AT WAR WITH PAKISTAN?!?!?!??!?!??!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!



Did we just start bombing so-called allies? Or did your love buddy Georgie decide to declare war on another country without the OK from Congress?


:grr:



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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:31 PM
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41. We must STOP the terrorists!
They are COLD BLOODED KILLERS.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:04 PM
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43. Small Mind...
"I'm terrirified, so I think i'll smoke that guy that lives on the corner. He terrifies me... duh"
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:19 PM
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44. I know I'm going to get flamed for saying this, but...
...the people in the tribal areas of Pakistan are NOT our friends, these are the people who gave support for the Taliban when it was taking over Afganistan. Mushariff can't go in there because it would trigger a civil war. SOMEBODY has to go in and get the AQ people. People are acting like this we intentionally killed these women and children.


:hide:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:28 PM
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46. John McCain, Hypocrite
John McCain, Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.


The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.


Here's what the AP's investigation found:


McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.


The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm


** I am going to post this for a few months everytime I see McCain's name on DU.

*** Would it be "unfortunate" if the Neo Fascists bombed a city in Amerika and killed Amerikan civilians because it was suspected that "terrorists" were in their neighborhood?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:31 PM
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47. And if Clinton had done this he would be a "mass murderer". nt
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:22 PM
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45. Let's hope Al Queda doesn't decide to hide in our neighborhoods
or that the * administration doesn't decide to target democratic areas with miltary action claiming al queda was there.

Then mccain can explain that one to the country.

McCain keeps going downhill in my estimation.

I hate to say it but I might have voted for him in 2000 if he'd gotten the nomination.

Instead, I, like the majority of Americans, voted for Al Gore.

Al Gore wouldn't minimize the loss of life of people because of their skin color or religion.

I don't think that 9/11 would have happened under Gore because he would have been listening to Richard Clarke and others who would have been screaming with their hair on fire about the potential.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:42 PM
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48. do what we think is necessary to take out Al-Qaeda
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 09:46 PM by seabeyond
but but but they didnt TAKE OUT any al-qaeda only innocent people

oh well. too bad. better them than us.

not acceptable. they are depending on their faulty information that has already killed up to 100k. we dont know. and now they kill innocent families depending on the same faulty info to only shrug shoulders.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:50 PM
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49. Too Bad we are the one creating the Terror!
I'm sure you were ok with being tortured during a time of war too Mr. McCain, you were at war after all sir.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:57 PM
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50. Is that what his torturers said to him in Vietnam? eom
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