Please DU This MSNBC Poll - Should Bu$h Be Impeached?...

[Peter Frank]

This hasn't been freeped yet, but it probably will be now.

Doesn't matter -- speak your mind...

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? -- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/#survey

[fooj]

1. 86% YES! Holy Crap!

Peace.

[txindy]

82. Two hours later and still holding strong at 86%.

With well over 208,000 votes, too. Amazing. Just amazing. :woohoo:

[Oilwellian]

103. This poll has been out for at least 2 weeks

I remember participating when it was still new and the percentage to impeach hasn't changed. And the wording of the poll is astonishing for MSNBC standards. :D

[Tiggeroshii]

2. wow.

I don't think that's perfectly reflective just yet of national public opinion;


86 yes

But hopefully soon, it will be

[yurbud]

3. still 86%. Keep it up. Kick & rec

[mopaul]

4. dunnit

another nail in dubya's coffin

[Jamastiene]

7. Tap, tap, tap, wack, wack, wack, joining you.

Yep, I'm honored to share construction work with you and do my part. :D

[mopaul]

19. whistle while you work

like happy little dwarves

[tiptoe]

5. k&r

[file83]

6. Bush is gonna get oWn3d....

[lamp_shade]

8. 86% Yes

207,474 votes

[Peter Frank]

9. Welcome to the DU lamp_shade...

Are you as fun at parties as your board name indicates??? ;)

[lamp_shade]

12. DU is my party

I come HERE for information, comfort and company... my second home... my little corner of the world. My board name is telling though because I do just sit here and read and give an occasional kick. I'm hardly a newbie, though, but thank you very much for the welcome.

[Peter Frank]

30. I was making a weird reference to the old guys...

...who used to wear lamp shades on their heads at parties, to get a laugh (I've actually done this myself).

[Richard D]

10. There's over . . .

. . . 200,000 votes recorded so far. This is pretty representational. It's been up for a long time, so if it's going to be freeped, it already has been.

[Peter Frank]

11. Maybe so, but freeps tend to follow World Net Daily et. al. ...

I'd actually like to see this freeped, and get a better picture.

[pnorman]

16. As a reminder,

"freeping the poll" is a lot more than inviting all to go there and VOTE. In the past, the Freak Republic has openly bragged about "Perl scripts" that would allow a single computer to cast multiple votes --- as many as they thought they could get away with without triggering an alarm.

I believe that this poll is inherently skewed somewhat to the "center/liberal" side. But over 2000,000!!! -- That's impressive!!!

pnorman

[PurgedVoter]

13. Wow, kicked

[LiberalInGeorgia2005]

14. Kick

[Scurrilous]

15. Done.

:kick:

[ticapnews]

17. This has been up for weeks and was never mentioned on-air

As far as MSNBC is concerned, this poll never happened. I have no idea why it's still on the site, but they aren't paying attention...

[Jemmons]

18. 86% yes!

[Vektor]

20. I'm actually astounded that the corporate media is even using the word

"impeached". I never thought they would

[lakeguy]

21. 86% still....nt

[neweurope]

22. And STILL 86 &

-------------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[Kire]

23. could somebody post the link to the actual poll?

all I get is the results, I hate that - but I love the results

Edit - you say it's been up a long time, maybe I'm getting the results because I already voted for it. Appreciate it if someone can confirm this is a link to the actualy poll. Thanks.

[ticapnews]

26. This is the link to the poll question

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/
But if you already voted, you'll just see the results. The poll was first posted on December 21, but was never mentioned on the air and only made it (I believe) into one small-time newspaper in San Francisco. The poll is essentially archived and will never see the light of day...

[Barad Simith]

27. I'm seeing the same thing you are (results only) ... but,

I've been seeing this same poll posted from time to time here at DU for a couple of weeks or more, and I think the reason we're seeing the results and not the original poll is because we already voted.

Okay, after I typed the previous paragraph I opened another browser and the same link gave me the poll options instead of the poll questions, so yes, it's "a cookies thing".

[Peter Frank]

24. MSNBC has been one of the few places where cutting journalism...

...is still alive.

Check out David Shuster's "Hardball" piece on Bu$h'a domestic spying program -- http://www.castpost.com/Lib/playWMV2.php?filename=http://arkansastonight.castpost.com/Hardball-Spy-Shuster.wmv&width=280&height=200

[mopaul]

25. remember when you couldn't even use the word in public?

for four years, the easiest way to get screamed at was to say the word 'impeachment', now one can say it openly without fear! wonderful!

[Cooley Hurd]

28. Amazing that we're seeing SEVERAL on-line polls concerning the "I" word

...and they're not DU polls!:wow:

Kids, I believe we're on the cusp of something big!:bounce:

[SalmonChantedEvening]

29. done!

86% say YES!!

:woohoo:

[Tactical Progressive]

31. 207 thousand votes

That's alot of Free Republican Fascists that are going to have to counter. I think those kind of numbers indicate that alot of moderates and independents understand the degree of corruption that Republicans now represent to America.

The freeper fascists are used to screaming ten times as loud and ten times longer than their opposition (decent people) to get their way. Maybe if they click the survey vote button ten times as hard and ten times over they'll get their usual advantage with the media.

Which is of course the big question. Will the media even mention this poll? And if they do, will they then put together panel discussions and even entire pundit shows around it, like they did the first time a Republican even mentioned that Clinton might be impeached over a rumor of a marital indescretion.

Don't get me wrong - it's great that they're even doing a poll like this. But they have so many more methods for not talking about what they don't want to talk about. Bush's impeachment should be a major American issue right through the 2006 mid-terms, but it won't be, no matter what this or any other poll says. They'll simply decide that three-quarters of the US population wanting Bush impeached isn't as newsworthy as, well, just about anything else that comes up.

[Peter Frank]

32. Don't be so sure...

Bu*h is a lame duck; and his constituents are weary of the scandals.

Bu$h himself is over. It's the infrastructure that needs the attention!

[Road Scholar]

33. Done!! 86% yes!!

[Christa]

34. It has been 86% for weeks now.

MSNBC never mentions it even.

[Lochloosa]

35. WOW 207,637 responses 86% YES K/R

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 207637 responses


Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

[acmavm]

36. 6:55 a.m. CST 01/16/06

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 207642 responses


Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

edit: added time zone

[Catchawave]

37. 86% YES......

..though worried about that 8% that voted "he's done nothing wrong" :silly:

[Ninga]

38. 86% and holding!!!

[progressoid]

39. 207684 responses. Yet it is still meaningless.

61% also thing it's time to get tough with Iran!! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080261/#survey

Online polls are notoriously inaccurate.

One week in the middle of the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, more than 200,000 people took part in an MSNBC Live Vote that asked whether President Clinton should leave office. Seventy-three percent said yes. That same week, an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll found that only 34 percent of about 2,000 people who were surveyed thought so.

[NeoGreen]

40. As of 8:56am EST 16Jan06

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment?  
* 207718 responses  
 
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war
and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%  
 
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but
nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%  
 
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment
would just be a political lynching.
8%  
 
I don't know.
2%  

[klook]

41. 207,720 responses -86% YES!! (eom)

[sshaw1980]

42. done

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 207734 responses

Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

:kick:

[marylanddem]

43. Voted - Will President-in-Exile Gore be leading the charge? n/t

[woodcutter]

44. done

[Liberal In Texas]

45. Done. With 207,799 votes and still at 86% yes it's unlikely to be freeped.

[OregonBlue]

46. done.

[PDittie]

47. Over 207K responses and it's 86% yes

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 207848 responses
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%
I don't know.
2%

[Oceansaway]

48. Done...

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 207891 responses


Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

[SharonRB]

49. Done!

86%? Amazing.

[Perky]

50. Holy Hell Still 86% at 11:30 EST

THat's can't be right? Can it?

[carolinalady]

51. This poll is a few weeks old-I am surprised they are keeping

it going, but I love the results.

[Mutley]

52. Wow, the results are amazing.

With over 200,000 votes DUers can't even begin to actually influence this poll, and it doesn't need it anyway. The fact that people are even talking about impeachment at all is amazing.

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 207923 responses

Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

[UTUSN]

53. 86%Y - MSNBC & CNN ought to get the message who their viewers are

About all of their polls run our way. They should cater to us instead of trying to be like Faux.

[Peter Frank]

54. 208003 responses -- still @ 86%... n/t

[ignatius 2]

55. Dang,over 200M votes and it is 86% yes. Now what will this administraton

do in the fall to change the subject and keep the senate? War in Iran,gay marriage,more diebold machines? They are sneaky,devious bastards and it will take a lot of planning to keep control of congress and keep Mpnkeyman from going down.

[question everything]

56. And then, what. Having Cheney is President

and Pat Robertson as V.P.?

Don't forget. They have the majority of voices. They can nominate a monkey to be a V.P. and it will be confirmed.

First, let's capture the House and the Senate. Then we'll see.

[Peter Frank]

57. I believe the impeachment sentiment goes along with the...

..."throw the bums out" sentiment. But you're correct -- the PNAC cabal (propped up by the monolithic fundies) must go.

[MUAD_DIB]

58. Funny how there are two no's, One I dunno, and

One yes.

Does anybody think that they are stacking the deck? ; D

[newyawker99]

59. Done. n/t

[jillan]

60. Still at 86% - hmmmm

Maybe they are not updating on purpose?

[Peter Frank]

61. It's being updated...

When I first posted the poll there were around 207,400 responses; now there's 208,254 responses.

[bleedingheart]

62. You would think with all the lawyers in Congress one would have the guts

to proceed to draw up impeachment papers.

[snacker]

63. WOW......86% YES!!!! n/t

[Bluerthanblue]

64. done, with pleasure, for what it's worth.

[guajira]

65. thanx for posting this

:kick:

[eppur_se_muova]

66. Apparently now closed -- 86 % YES !!!

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 208285 responses
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%
I don't know.
2%

[Peter Frank]

67. THE POLL IS STILL OPEN...

208,327 responses -- that's about 1,000 more than last night.

[eppur_se_muova]

70. Odd--why do I see only the results, not the "VOTE" button? nt

[Peter Frank]

88. Have you already voted?...

If you have -- you'll only see the results page. The poll doesn't let you vote twice.

[eppur_se_muova]

90. Ah. "Vote early and often" does not apply here.

Sad to see this fine old tradition die out.:cry:

[Peter Frank]

97. You can always go to work for Diebold...

;)

[Peter Frank]

68. Poll Open...

208,336 responses

[tnlefty]

69. 86% - Yes and the number was over 208,000 votes

:kick:

[Sydnie]

71. 86% YES!

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 208419 responses


Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

[PhilipShore]

72. Done-Yes-86%

Yes-86%

No-4%

[fiddlestix]

73. 86%

Hey, this one's doing better than Al Gore's...NO FAIR!

[DanCa]

74. 86 percent for impeachment. Damn thats a good number. (nt)

[hippiegranny]

75. what a difference a year makes...

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 208437 responses


Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

[Uncle Joe]

76. Has anyone ever heard them report on the results of this or the

previous poll they ran with just about the same results?

[Raster]

77. At 1450 PST. Perhaps the tide is truly turning...

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 208442 responses

Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

[cal04]

78. Done K&R

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 208487 responses


Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

[Radio_Lady]

80. Still at 86% 3:35 PM Pacific Time.

I'll take that percentage, even if it doesn't change!!!

[countingbluecars]

79. Done. n/t

[txindy]

81. Over 208,000 votes and still at 86% 'Yes"

That's not just us. Not even close!

[0007]

83. Man look at all the voters that want junior to take it on the Arthur Duffy

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 208,506 responses

Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%
I don't know.
2%

[struggle4progress]

84. 86% @ 208517

[donkeyotay]

85. That felt good!

Do you think he should be impeached??? I thought you'd never ask.

[fishwax]

86. this is an old poll, right?

anyway, it's 86% yes :woohoo:

[rodeodance]

87. 86% say yes, 208530 responses.

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 208530 responses
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%
I don't know.
2%

[kittenwithmittens]

89. I told my winger brother about this poll

and he laughed at me. He said he's voted a bunch of times for "chimpeachment" (he even used that word) and that all of his innernets winger buds are doing the same. Their apparently trying to drive the poll over 90% to make it invalid. He's not the smartest one in the family.

[eppur_se_muova]

91. Holy crap! Get this guy a job with Diebold!

"Yeah, we ran the Democrat {sic} vote up to 90%, since we knew nobody would believe that."

[sakabatou]

92. Who the hell are the 8 percent?

Are they nuts?! "No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching." :puke:

[TBreeze]

93. Done. n/t

[hiaasenrocks]

94. Still 86% YES at 10:02pm EST (208,715 responses) n/t

[donheld]

95. done

:bounce:

[haydukelives]

96. Done

86%
kick

[unkachuck]

98. done....yes 86%....n/t

[MaggieSwanson]

99. 10:19pm...and STILL at 86%!

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 208841 responses


Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

[earth mom]

100. Wow, Now THAT IS Damning!

:woohoo:

[Window]

101. Done.

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 208866 responses


Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%



Peace

[Betty]

102. 86% for impeachment

over 200,000 votes

[Peter Frank]

104. 208,974 responses... n/t

[Peter Frank]

105. There's likely something wrong with the poll results...

While the number of replies keeps mounting -- the breakdown has been stuck on these exact percentages for over a day:

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment?


Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%

My guess is that MSNBC posted the initial breakdown graphic w/o syncing it to the real-time data.

Keep on voting! ...and E-mail MSNBC for an explanation here -- mailto:[e-mail]