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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:30 AM
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WJ this morning question who is the greatest black leader
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 07:33 AM by mrcheerful
today. Freeper called in and asked why don't the blacks let a white man lead them.

edited becase i added an S where it shouldn't have been
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:33 AM
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1. Nelson Mandela is the answer n/t
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:33 AM
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2. Actually, I agree that a white person could be a leader for black
people. As a black person, I considered Clinton a leader. I also considered Al Gore a leader. A leader for black people need not exclude the needs of people other than blacks to be a socalled black leader. Martin Luther King's civil right leadership didn't only affect black people like a lot of people assume. Civil rights apply to all people.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:40 AM
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5. Yeah but this guy sounded like the leader he was looking for
was the one who wears sheets on his head. BTW, how can a white person understand or even deal with the hidden racism thats going on today? Most white people don't see it. I was driving a black person to a doctors appointment. we got stuck at a traffic light, an older white woman pulled up next to us, glanced over, then whipped her head back to the windshield and slapped her door lock down. Its funny how if my friend had not have pointed that out, I would have missed it.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:44 AM
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6. I don't think he sounded like that at all. And the issues that really
matter to black people are issues of fairness in the laws and employment and medical care, not the attitudes of rascist troglodytes. They will always be with us.
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:33 AM
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3. I just "love" how black people need one leader
because after all we are a monolithic group :eyes:.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:35 AM
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4. Right.
Agree. The person/s who advocates fairness for all people like President Clinton did is a leader to blacks as well as whites.
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:46 AM
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7. Most people who talk of black leaders fail to realize that
As much as I love seeing glass ceilings being broken there are white men such as Clinton who have done far more for all people world wide than the likes of Condi have done for anybody besides themselves.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:55 AM
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10. Right again.
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 07:59 AM by Kahuna
A president is supposed to be a leader for all Americans. Just think how far the civil rights movement would have progressed had it not been for a president in office who was willing to address the issues? It would have gone nowhere.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:46 AM
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8. Very interesting conversation
I loved the Black Republican from Florida who dropped the knowledge about today's Consevatives being the old Dixiecrats.

As a black person, I think we need a leader of the people, because there are whites suffering just as much as blacks under the way things are now. Somebody that can speak to the issues that are at the heart of regular folks.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:52 AM
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9. I think the question was stupid and out of touch with the times. A leader
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 08:10 AM by Kahuna
is a leader. Blacks folks these days have the same concerns as white folks. We all just want what is fair and just for all people. So, a black or white person can be a leader for all people. Race has nothing to do with it.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:55 AM
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11. Like Project 21 ...
<snip>
The National Center for Public Policy Research is a "conservative think tank" founded in 1982 in order to "provide the conservative movement with a versatile and energetic organization capable of responding quickly and decisively to fast-breaking issues." The NCPPR works on a variety of issues, from "environmental policy" to "global warming" to "civil rights." The organization is headed by President Amy Ridenour, Vice-President David Ridenour, and Executive Director David Almasi.

Project 21, the NCPPR's effort to create a “new leadership for Black America,” seems little more than African American spokespeople with extremist views that are at odds with what the majority of African Americans care about and believe. Yet it incredibly claims to be “a leading voice in the African-American community since 1992.”
<snip>

Their Director:

http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=19484
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