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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:15 AM
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Why isn't bush being Swiftboated over his failure to find Osama?
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 08:34 AM by mopaul
And why isn't more outrage being expressed about bush's inability to get him 'dead or alive' when they claim they don't even know if he's dead or alive?

Why isn't some prominent democrat standing up and asking this question of bush? How can he claim that we're safer from attack when the man who supposedly attacked us is still out there free as a bird?

Someone needs to bring this up and SWIFT BOAT THE FUCK OUT OF IT.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:17 AM
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1. It's only a matter of time before we capture the "real mastermind"
And it is revealed that some guy they capture, could be any random arab-looking person, was the "real mastermind" behind 9/11. We will learn that bin-Laden was just taking orders from him, and that by capturing this person Bush has made us even safer than we already were...
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:18 AM
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2. While this might be good politics
in reality it is nonsense. Do you really believe that the boogeyman Osama is in charge of all bad things? That his elimination will really make us 'safer'?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:21 AM
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4. sorry to do this but, if it had been Clinton who failed to find Osama...
you know this tired old mind game by now. that's my only point.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:36 AM
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9. You're right about that
and people would have gone nuts about the comment that he didn't even think about it much that bush made.

Of course we aren't any safer if we do capture him or declare him dead or whatever. We have made more loyal recruits to his cause then Osama himself ever could.

I miss lies and scandals that were about consensual sex, I swear to god. I'd rather bush had 100 lovers in the oval office then these wars and schemes and broken treaties and lies and deception about everything that matters.

They don't even make a pretense about caring for the good of the people, the middle and lower classes are nothing. Yet many of them accept his platitudes.

A country gone mad.
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:19 PM
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24. no you're wrong.
Clinton did fail to get Osama, and has been swiftboated for it.

Why no reciprocity truck fuckers?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:19 AM
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3. as long as bush remains in the oval office we are not safer!
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:30 AM
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5. Osama is a Govt Patsy, IMO
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 08:30 AM by ixion
who is much better left 'out there', as far as the govt is concerned.

Remember, also, that Osama worked for the CIA in the eighties when Russia occupied Afghanistan.

What's that they say about being a spook? You can never really be 'out' of the game.

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:31 AM
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7. all wacky theories will be accepted
because nothing has to make sense anymore. i believe he's a c.i.a. operative, but then i'm half nuts.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:35 AM
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8. lol... yeah, it's just a theory. I have no hard evidence, only logical
assumption, Occam's Razor and a healthy dose of Murphy's Law(s). :-)
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:49 AM
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15. I "used to" think that was nuts-but not anymore
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:31 AM
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6. the real problem is how Bush is content to strafe innocents to get at him
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 08:32 AM by bigtree
why is bin laden so important that it doesn't matter any more who we kill in the process of catching him? We know the Taliban gave him shelter in Afghanistan, but there have to be countless in Afghanistan, who we mowed down, who have never met the man, much less given any material support to him. We call the countryfolk of these regions in Pakistan and the like, sympathizers of al-qaeda, as if they were accomplices to 9-11, which is the only legal basis for Bush to use our military in pursuit of him. But these folks are turning against us for the mindless collateral killing Bush is sanguine about as we send in drones and stage assaults across borders, far from our own home.

I prefer the route of respecting these country's sovereignty and using our diplomacy to cause these countries who may harbor bin-Laden to give him up. Our actions only make the creep a folk hero as we pose more of a threat to these poor folk in the way of our weapons than al-Qaeda does.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:38 AM
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10. it is hard to Swift Boat someone
when they have total control of the media.
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readermostly Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:40 AM
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11. Absolutely right!!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:40 AM
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12. The only way swiftboating works is IF YOU CONTROL THE MEDIA.
After impeachment, trashing of the WH, Gore 2000, 9-11 incompetence, Dean scream, swiftlies, election fraud, DSM and Mrs. Alito, who do you THINK controls the media?
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:41 AM
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13. Swift boating is reserved for going after patriotic combat veterans
Not against yellow-bellied draft-dodging chickenhawk punk cowards like 5 Deferment Cheney, AWOL-Bush, et al.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:13 PM
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17. Swift-boating by Democrats.
Rather: look we have some pretty solid evidence that Bush is a draft dodging shirker.

WhoreMedia: you can't prove that 100% so you are fired.

Swift-boating by Republicans:

FuckingLiar: look we have a bunch of hooey that Kerry didn't actually deserve all those combat medals.

WhoreMedia: Mr. Kerry, how do you respond to these serious charges?

How are we supposed to win this?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:47 AM
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14. But..but..he has destroyed the #2 man. 18 of them in Pakistan.
Once he gets rid of all of them (an endless supply considering the number of #2's available) he'll get after the number 1 and "smoke 'em out" and "shock and awe" him and declare "mission accomplished".
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:51 AM
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16. I think they were hoping to fix his ailing numbers with that Pakistan
strike. It all happened in the Alito week. Doesn't that seem kind of coinky dinky?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:18 PM
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18. Because they are Osama Bin Laden's friends.
They are bum buddies, doing narcotics together and having wild sex orgies.


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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:31 PM
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19. We'd be accused of harrassing him & making non-involved Laura cry
And that's just here on DU. :eyes:

Yep, we need relentless truth-tellers with media access. And therein lies the rub. The M$M.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:56 PM
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20. republicans swiftboat.. we slowboat
:(
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 07:03 PM
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21. Because Democrats don't do that...
...except to other Democrats of course.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:56 PM
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22. Because Swiftboating isn't applicable here
How Repugs swiftboat:

Step 1: determine your opponent's greatest strength
Step 2: make up some lies that will turn your opponent's strength into a weakness
Step 3: use people who were supposedly in proximity to your victim to spread the lies
Step 4: repeat until you've neutered your opponent's strengths

IIRC, some of the people who were in the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" weren't even in the Navy when John Kerry was in Vietnam.

We can't swiftboat Bush over his failure even to look for Osama very hard...because everything you can possibly say about this is true.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:15 PM
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23. Yes, Amazing, Isn't It?
These Republicans think Bush is so *tough* on terrorism, & yet he can't even get OBL. I feel that if we could get Hussein, we could certainly get OBL. I suspect that Bush has a reason for not getting OBL, & it's either that he is in with him or OBL has something on Bush that he doesn't want to get out.
I just cannot believe that it is *so* difficult to get this guy.

Tammy
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