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Mon Jun-26-06 07:19 PM
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Stop calling it a WAR. It's not. |
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WE HAVE NEVER DECLARED WAR ON IRAQ. It’s NOT a war. According to Wikipedia.org, we are participating in a “Military engagement authorized by Congress.” In reality, it’s an Occupation. Blowing up and invading an unarmed country is not “engaging in war” just because you call it that. Calling it a war is just a BushCo political trick that lends some kind of twisted validity to the senseless killing that continues in Iraq.
It has been proven that there was no centralized Iraqi plan to bring harm to America—no WMD’s and no military attack (or even resistance.) The escalating acts of hostility we are now seeing were borne of the smoke and shrapnel of the American Invasion. Our continuing presence is now the irritant that justifies our own occupation, and it’s costing us the lives of American troops.
Yet, BushCo continues to poke the hive and blame the bees.
Saddaam wasn’t allowed to surrender, even before we invaded. But with his capture and our military domination, the Iraqi government has allegedly been cleansed of evil do-ers and carefully restructured to live happily ever after in Democratic bliss. Ostensibly, Iraq now has a friendly Democratic government with no military threat and no brutal dictator. But with no more Boogey Man, who’s left to surrender? When is Mission really Accomplished? As long as we occupy Iraq, our presence will generate enough Anti-American hostility and political instability to keep us there. The Iraq Occupation will be characterized by our troops trying to defend themselves from a nebulous, omnipresent hostility—-a no-win situation. Hard to find the Bad Guy when you don’t even know what he looks like.
Call it an Invasion. Call it an Occupation. Call it senseless. But don’t call it a war.
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Mon Jun-26-06 07:22 PM
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1. I always have called it the Iraq |
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Mon Jun-26-06 07:26 PM
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2. I just want to call it OFF |
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Mon Jun-26-06 07:26 PM
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3. Nor is the dictator's war on "terra" |
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The fool on the hill seems to relish in his self-pronounced title of "war president". ("I never actually fought in a war, but I played a commander-in-chief on TV).
There is no war - just a misbegotten misadventure by a deranged idiot that has devastated so many lives and so many families. His "terra war" is just a hand out to his corporate friends.
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Mon Jun-26-06 07:31 PM
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4. Busholini even called it an Occupation. |
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I heard the Silverspoon Sociopath say it on TV.
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Mon Jun-26-06 07:33 PM
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5. "Welcome to the occupation...." |
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Sorry. I'm having a moment. $5 (not really =P) to anyone who guesses who that song (the title of my post) is by...
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Mon Jun-26-06 07:40 PM
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7. Gil Scott-Heron? (eom) |
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Mon Jun-26-06 08:40 PM
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Kay, I'll give yall a clue
-The band (not singer) that the song is by used to be really popular in the early 1990s. Also, they were on the Vote for Change Tour with Bruce Springsteen, The Dixie Chicks and more....and their drummer quit in 1997.
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Mon Jun-26-06 09:54 PM
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"Welcome to the Occupation" is a song by R.E.M. on their album Document. It's about Iran-Contra (i think). Go itunes it or Limewire it or whatever...
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Mon Jun-26-06 07:36 PM
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iraq invaded iraq. he then proceeded to occupy it. he is still occupying it.
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Mon Jun-26-06 07:45 PM
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8. Well, technically neither was Viet Nam... |
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...but tell that to the people in Iraq.
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Mon Jun-26-06 09:38 PM
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17. I think they called it a "conflict" |
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tens of thousands dead and maimed in conflicts!?! WTF?
War is a euphemism for unjustified aggression.
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Mon Jun-26-06 07:52 PM
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9. 9/11 was not an act of war either... |
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Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 07:52 PM by QuestionAll
it was a CRIME.
and so was the way the misadministration used it as a pre-text for an illegal invasion of iraq.
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Mon Jun-26-06 07:53 PM
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10. More like "Police Action" if you ask me.... n/t |
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Mon Jun-26-06 07:59 PM
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11. I always called it the Iraq invasion. |
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Mon Jun-26-06 08:01 PM
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12. If it walks like a Duck and Quakes like a duck |
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Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 08:03 PM by Freedom_Aflaim
Its a duck.
Playing word games with the war in Iraq does not change the horror or the wrongness of it. (not that you are trying to).
Its a war in all respects except for a piece of paper with the signature of a bunch white rich people who are profiting from it, irregardless of what we call it.
Its a war. Especially to those in who are in it.
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Mon Jun-26-06 08:39 PM
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14. I guess my point was that we shouldn't * allow the political advantage |
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of using the term WAR for his invasion. Many, many posters here call it war. If everyone referred to it as an invasion or occupation or something that described the atrocities without legitimizing it, then we might win the war of words.
BushCo always manipulates language to their advantage. We should too. In this case, we would simply be using a more honest, accurate term.
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Mon Jun-26-06 08:52 PM
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16. I know and I think you have the right idea |
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TO be honest with myself, I consider it a war, however your point of using language appropriately for honorable means is quite well taken.
Bushco and his handlers have tried to grab the moral highground with their language at every opportunity. While good people know that their "highground" is quite shaky, its still part of their marketing of the war.
I guess Im not quite convinced the using different terms is right path, but your heart is in the right place.
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Mon Jun-26-06 08:02 PM
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the Anglo-American Invasion of Iraq.
Pisses my personal freepers off!
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Tue Jun-27-06 02:04 AM
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19. To slightly paraphrase Will Rogers |
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Edited on Tue Jun-27-06 02:06 AM by Art_from_Ark
They say that there ain't no war there.
You say that there ain't no war there.
So there ain't no war...
But the guys getting shot at, say that it's the best imitation they've ever seen.
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