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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:17 PM
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CNN misquotes Iran leader........I want to know why!
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 01:12 PM by Tinksrival
CNN's simultaneous translation of Ahmadinejad's lengthy news conference on Saturday included the phrase "the use of nuclear weapons is Iran's right."

In fact, what the Iranian president said was that "Iran has the right to nuclear energy," the official IRNA news agency reported. CNN later clarified in an apology on Sunday night.

Iran denies any intention of seeking nuclear weapons, saying it wants atomic technology merely for the generation of electricity.


WHAT IS THE MEDIA UP TO? I have a sick feeling we've been here before!


On edit: I should add that CNN has now been banned from Iran.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:29 PM
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1. They mis-quote everyone. This time it was a biggie in a foreign
country.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:50 PM
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45. VIDEO
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:31 PM
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2. Sorry
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:06 PM
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5. Voted and nominate this important thread
I'm not surprised in this orwellian world.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:33 PM
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3. They've been doing that for months n/t
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:03 PM
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4. Dan Rather's "mistake" didn't provoke a nuclear power
This "mistake" is worse, and someone needs to be held accountable.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:07 PM
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6. Not a misquote, not a mistake--the creation of a pretext
...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:10 PM
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7. CNN is banned from Iran....maybe we'll get some reliable news now.
This is a fucking serious mis-quote.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:48 PM
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8. And an important thread... vote it up people n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:49 PM
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9. CNN is a branch of the White House and it lies & propaganda
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:00 PM
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10. Kicked & Recommended!!!!!
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:07 PM
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27. Never forget: CNN = CONSERVATIVE News Network
They're not bomb-throwers like FOX News, or as we now call it, "AILES JAZEERA"

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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:01 PM
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11. CNN is banned from our home also! as of two weeks ago.
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 02:02 PM by Catrina
That was a deliberate attempt to set up the American people ONCE AGAIN to believe that now, another oil rich country, on the list of the PNACers and neocons, for another takeover, is an 'imminent threat' to their security.

It's the same MO and if Americans fall for it, they deserve everything they get. Not a siingle person in this country can use the excuse this time, that they 'believed the president, and oops, it was all a big mistake because he got faulty intelligence' after hundreds of thousands of deaths of innocent people.

If anyone wants to know why CNN is doing this, they have only to read the writings of Michael Ledeen, who many say is responsible for the forged Niger Documents and for US foreign policy in general. In his own words, he dismissed Gen. Scowcroft's concerned about going into Iraq possibly turning the whole region into a cauldron by stating 'if any region in the world deserves to be turned into a cauldron, it is the ME' and then said we need to hurry up and do it. And on his advice and fabricated 'evidence' the US went to war with Iraq.

I seriously hope that there is someone in charge of this country who can stop this obvious deception before it's too late. But I'm not very hopeful. Both Kerry and Dean have added their voices to the chorus of 'Iran is a threat' right after Bush's 'grave threat' speech.

We have no opposition party ~ so more than likely, with the propaganda machine operating full force and the so-called opposition, not furiously raising any objection, I think that thousands of Iranians are doomed, not to mention US troops who will no doubt become the targets of an Iranian army, instigated by an attack on their country.

Sometimes I think we should just give up.


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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:14 PM
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12. Kick and Kick and Kick and Kick.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:23 PM
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13. Nothing on CNN Websight
But story is up at BBC and Ledger and others.
I'm going to send a note to Leslie and ask that he offer an explaination on the "situation"

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?65
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:43 PM
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16. Here's my response so far:
In light of the misinformation that was pimped to the American public on WMD in the lead up to the "shock and awe" on the Iraq people, I am very disturbed to hear today of the extraordinary mis quote of a speech by the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
As of now there is no explanation offered by CNN for such a blatant misrepresentation of this leaders speech. I will await your explanation but I fear once again the American people are being lead down the rabbit hole.
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:25 PM
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14. I wonder what this means for Christiane n/t
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:41 PM
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15. I thought about her immediately
was she the one that said this???
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:47 PM
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18. According to the BBC
Its chief international correspondent, Christiane Amanpour, is currently in the country.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4617754.stm
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:44 PM
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17. They're pushing the idiot's next illegal invasion.
:(
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:55 PM
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19. Why? It seems obvious...
To foment pre- war fear among the ignorant masses.

That's irresponsible and puts the Amereican people in danger, particularly military members and contractor employees!
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:00 PM
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20. Hey, CNN, what else was misquoted? Was this part of the plan?
I hate to say this, but in this particular case, no news may be good news. Except we need reliable news out of Iran.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:08 PM
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21. we'll never get reliable info out of Iran
we'll get our side, and if you want, their side from Al Jazerra, or The Dawn or some middle east newspapers.

but don't expect you were ever getting anything but the corporate news from CNN.
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 07:36 AM
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41. Al Jazeera is 'their side'??
It has nothing to do with Iran AFAIK.

Not all is as the propaganda insists....
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:13 PM
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22. Let's kick this all day. nt
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:15 PM
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23. It's Obvious
CNN must be part of the Bush cabal! Wolfie must have a key to the promised bunker-land.

Something wicked this way came. But, I think we're witnessing other powers struggling to save our country & the world.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:42 PM
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24. Kick back to first page. Very important story. nt
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 03:51 PM
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25. Still no statement
I guess CNN does not think their ban from Iran is news worthy.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:04 PM
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26. All Western media are the same though not always as obvious as this.
I never, ever read the fact that Iran is currently NPT-compliant, that removing the seals last week was legal, that Iran has gone beyong the requirements of the NPT since 2003, making additional voluntary concessions to try to establish confidence in the peaceful nature of its nuclear program. Never. The western media are war propagandists, Plain and simple.
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:22 PM
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28. Ah, slip in an intentional misquote...
hope that no one of consequence catches it or raises too much of a stink about it, and...

lay the first seeds of misinformation into the public conscience.

Once root has taken, continue fertilizing it with a healthy dose of repetition in the corporate media and puditry...

Reversing this mindset becomes difficult to impossible...the lie becomes "truth".

The foundations of war get a few more bricks.



Lucky for us Iran made a big stink of this and forced the media whores to back-peddle and admit their "mistake".
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:34 PM
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29. Resurrected from pg 3...last kick for scandalous misquote. nt
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:56 PM
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30. CNN acts as a conduit for the Pentagons propaganda
it has for years.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:00 AM
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31. This just shows me
they're trying to help the Bush neocons with their plan to attack Iran.
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:10 AM
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32. Iran could never ever ever want nuclear weapons
/sarcasm on

A good, freedom loving, peaceful nation ruled by rational men like Iran could never ever want nuclear weapons. This is a another media trick to make people think the peaceful Iranian clerics are bad people. Bad men, since women can not be clerics and so are shut out of the ruling class totally. I mean Iran would never follow the path of North Korea and risk international isolation till they have the nukes. This must be a ploy by the Bush administration because Iran wants only to be peaceful and friendly. All Iran wants is some electricity!! Its a lie when they talk about how Iran sits on the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world. I mean they sure do need that power generation due to the lack of oil. How dare we question the intentions of the Honorable clerics who send out thugs on motor-bikes to beat up students and arrest people for listening to western music.

/sarcasm off
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:12 AM
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33. What you say may be true...
...but CNN should still be more careful about their translations.
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:26 AM
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34. I Agree with you there
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 12:28 AM by jzodda
CNN does not need to become like Fox News-where I need a truth detector when listening to anything they report
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:42 AM
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35. A little history listen hommie ......
You stated .... "All Iran wants is some electricity!! Its a lie when they talk about how Iran sits on the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world. I mean they sure do need that power generation due to the lack of oil."

Hang on there sherlock .... if you were being facetious that's one thing but you can't discount why under the Shah of Iran back in the 70's this was taking place ....

In 1975, as secretary of state, Kissinger signed and circulated National Security Decision Memorandum 292, titled "U.S.-Iran Nuclear Cooperation," which laid out the administration's negotiating strategy for the sale of nuclear energy equipment projected to bring U.S. corporations more than $6 billion in revenue. At the time, Iran was pumping as much as 6 million barrels of oil a day, compared with an average of about 4 million barrels daily today. -snip-

Documents show that U.S. companies, led by Westinghouse, stood to gain $6.4 billion from the sale of six to eight nuclear reactors and parts. Iran was also willing to pay an additional $1 billion for a 20 percent stake in a private uranium enrichment facility in the United States that would supply much of the uranium to fuel the reactors. -snip-

Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld all were in positions to play significant roles in Iran policy then, "but in those days, you have to view Kissinger as the main figure." Requests for comment from the offices of Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld went unanswered. -snip-

"It is absolutely incredible that the very same players who made those statements then are making completely the opposite ones now," said Joseph Cirincione, a nonproliferation expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "Do they remember that they said this? Because the Iranians sure remember that they said it," said Cirincione, who just returned from a nuclear conference in Tehran -- a rare trip for U.S. citizens now. -snip-

What Cheney Wolfowitz and Rumsfield are saying now is exactly what you spewed up there ...... yet history shows these men to be hypocrites once again. The Shah of Iran back in the 70's argued that someday his Oil supplies would run down to an extent that his country would need alternative supplies of energy. And Corporate dominated America was once again willing to make a buck or two off the venture, but now ...... bogga bogga bogga, fear fear fear terror terror terror, ...... Iran has no right to this kind of thinking. :wtf: Go ahead tell me they are the enemy now so things are different. :eyes: Here's the article ......

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3983-2005Mar26.html?nav=rss_politics/administration Peace. :)
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 05:47 AM
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38. I'm sick of that pathetic attempt at an argument as well. Good response.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:29 PM
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44. And if poster #32 wants to argue human rights issues .......
in this world ....... Amnesty International, Freedom House, Human Rights Watch and Reporters Without Borders might have a few WORSE violators for him to go conquer on the list before Iran. President Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe), President Teodoro Obiang Nguema (Equatorial Guinea), General Than Shwe (Burma), Prince Abdullah (Crown Prince Saudi Arabia) Yea that Saudi Arabia, Hu Jintao (The President and the Gen. Secy of the Communist Party of China) Go ahead dude spread 'democracy' take on that Country and make the world safer for your humane concerns, Omar Al-Bashir (Sudan), Saparmurat Niyazov (Turkmenistan), King Mswati III (Swaziland) on and on. When he conquers those guys then maybe he can come back and we can talk Iran. :crazy: Peace.

note: I got an idea lets get our own Country to stop bombing and invading sovereign nations on bullshit lies, torturing their people .......... well you get my drift, get our own house in order first. Peace again. :rant: :hi:
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 07:40 AM
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43. There is no reason to think the Iranian
regime is anything but rational and calculating.

The rest of your 'sarcasm' seems to be the usual inaccurate talking points. Do you think the USA should attack Iran?
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 04:00 AM
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36. kick
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 05:12 AM
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37. Very, very sinister. Of course, their "correction" will be ignored
and their lying "quote" will be held up as proof that Iran must be attacked pre-emptively.

Can't let that happen.

K & R
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:27 AM
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39. Saudis have bought into Time-Warner....

and they probably view Iran to be almost as much of a threat, at least to their business interests, as Israel does. CNN will always bias its reporting when it benefits Bush-Saudi interests.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 07:24 AM
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40. CNN now unbanned after apology. Translator not CNN employee but
works for a company that provides translation services. Looks like the translator's out of a job with that company at least. Article here: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/16/iran.cnn/index.html

And Reuters article on the lifting of the ban:

TEHRAN (Reuters) -
Iran on Tuesday lifted its ban on CNN after the U.S. news network apologized for misquoting President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as saying Tehran wanted nuclear weapons, a top culture ministry official said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060117/wl_nm/media_iran_cnn_dc_5
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 07:37 AM
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42. The Daily Show has more accurate translations! My God!
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SeattleRob Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:52 PM
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46. Don't forget this old Story:

From FAIR:

Why Were Government Propaganda Experts Working On News At CNN?

3/27/00

Reports in the Dutch newspaper Trouw (2/21/00, 2/25/00) and France's Intelligence Newsletter (2/17/00) have revealed that several officers from the US Army's 4th Psychological Operations (PSYOPS) Group at Ft. Bragg worked in the news division at CNN's Atlanta headquarters last year, starting in the final days of the Kosovo War.

In the U.S. media, so far only Alexander Cockburn, columnist for The Nation and co-editor of the newsletter CounterPunch, has picked up on the story. Cockburn's column on the subject is available at www.counterpunch.org.

The story is disturbing. In the 1980s, officers from the 4th Army PSYOPS group staffed the National Security Council's Office of Public Diplomacy (OPD), a shadowy government propaganda agency that planted stories in the U.S. media supporting the Reagan Administration's Central America policies.

A senior US official described OPD as a "vast psychological warfare operation of the kind the military conducts to influence a population in enemy territory." (Miami Herald, 7/19/87) An investigation by the congressional General Accounting Office found that OPD had engaged in "prohibited, covert propaganda activities," and the office was soon shut down as a result of the Iran-Contra investigations. But the 4th PSYOPS group still operates.

CNN has always maintained a close relationship with the Pentagon. Getting access to top military officials is a necessity for a network that stakes its reputation on being first on the ground during wars and other military operations.

What makes the CNN story especially troubling is the fact that the network allowed the Army's covert propagandists to work in its headquarters, where they learned the ins and outs of CNN's operations. Even if the PSYOPS officers working in the newsroom did not influence news reporting, did the network allow the military to conduct an intelligence-gathering mission against CNN itself?

For instance, one PSYOPS officer worked in CNN's satellite division. According to Intelligence Newsletter, rear admiral Thomas Steffens, a psychological warfare expert in the Special Operations Command, recently told a PSYOPS conference that the military needed to find ways to "gain control" over commercial news satellites to help bring down an "informational cone of silence" over regions where special operations were taking place.

An unofficial strategy paper published by the U.S. Naval War College in 1996 and written by an Army officer ("Military Operations in the CNN World: Using the Media as a Force Multiplier") urged military commanders to find ways to "leverage the vast resources of the fourth estate" for the purposes of "communicating the objective and endstate, boosting friendly morale, executing more effective psychological operations, playing a major role in deception of the enemy, and enhancing intelligence collection."


http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1748
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:55 PM
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47. Jesus. Is there anyone on CNN who realizes that what
they are doing will result in the deaths of thousands, possibly millions? Is that the sort of thing you do for "access?" They won't go to hell, though; the Devil would refuse to associate with that sort of trash.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:39 PM
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48. Look at these translations english farsi
It doesn't look alike in writing:





For what it's worth ;-)
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