RNC response to Gore's speech

[carolinalady]

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=59313

<snip>
"Al Gore's incessant need to insert himself in the headline of the day is almost as glaring as his lack of understanding of the threats facing America. While the President works to protect Americans from terrorists, Democrats deliver no solutions of their own, only diatribes laden with inaccuracies and anger." --Tracey Schmitt, RNC Press Secretary

<snip>

Clinton/Gore Administration Used Warrantless Searches:

Clinton Administration Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick: "(T)he Department Of Justice Believes, And The Case Law Supports, That The President Has Inherent Authority To Conduct Warrantless Physical Searches For Foreign Intelligence Purposes And That The President May, As Has Been Done, Delegate This Authority To The Attorney General." (Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick, Permanent Select Committee On Intelligence, U.S. House Of Representatives, Testimony, 7/14/94)

In 1994, President Clinton Expanded The Use Of Warrantless Searches To Entirely Domestic Situations With No Foreign Intelligence Value Whatsoever. In A Radio Address Promoting A Crime- Fighting Bill, Mr. Clinton Discussed A New Policy To Conduct Warrantless Searches In Highly Violent Public Housing Projects." (Charles Hurt, "'Warrantless' Searches Not Unprecedented," The Washington Times, 12/22/05)

"One Of The Most Famous Examples Of Warrantless Searches In Recent Years Was The Investigation Of CIA Official Aldrich H. Ames, Who Ultimately Pleaded Guilty To Spying For The Former Soviet Union. That Case Was Largely Built Upon Secret Searches Of Ames' Home And Office In 1993, Conducted Without Federal Warrants." (Charles Hurt, "'Warrantless' Searches Not Unprecedented," The Washington Times, 12/22/05)

[pstans]

1. I am surprised they responded

It shows that they see him as a threat and it will get coverage.

[merh]

6. It is a great sign that they responded.

They are afraid of him and of his call for accountability.

:evilgrin:

[FreedomAngel82]

10. Yep

The more they scream the more coverage Gore will get and his speech. They already know a lot of the public doesn't like Bush's wiretapping.

[rfranklin]

23. Amazing that they use Bill Clinton as a role model...

and they still don't get any!

[madmom]

41. That's because they don't have a roll model of their own.

[Joe for Clark]

25. He is a threat to them.

The dems do seem to be missing a leader (I was going to say a set of balls).

The best asset this administration has is the lack of a leader on our part.

I truly believe, a principled liberal and a prinicpled conservative agree on the central issues of the day. This pretender gets by on our inability to lead in another direction.

I am not surprised the RNC reacted so quickly.

I will be absolutely shocked if the RNC controls congress by the end of the year.

But we HAVE to have a real leader.

Joe

[cantstandbush]

39. Anyone got the real dope on the Aldridch Ames wiretaps.

Were they truly 'warrantless?' If not, there needs to be a rapid response to these lies.

[ktlyon]

40. I would think if Clinton's Justice Dept broke the law with

warrantless searches they would have impeached him for that

[NYCGirl]

2. Wow, look at all those sources from THE MOONIE WASHINGTON TIMES!

:evilgrin:

[janx]

18. The funniest part is that the RNC tells the Moonie Times

what to print, the Moonie Times then prints it, and the RNC comes back and *uses it as some kind of "evidence"!*

:rofl:

[emulatorloo]

38. and that would be how the right-wing echo machine works

perfect example, isn't it?

[Tom Joad]

3. A pox on both their houses.

[rzemanfl]

4. Their ability to get away with that sort of bullshit ended today. n/t

[Sydnie]

5. "incessant need" - DAMN the koolaid is strong today n/t

[carolinalady]

14. That was just laughable because we hardly EVER hear from

Al Gore anymore-a point that our side needs to make over and over again.

[Bandit]

7. Hey it is okay to rob banks because someone did it before.

:shrug:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

15. spinning the facts

as usual..

[tridim]

8. What headline did Gore insert himself into?

The corporate media hasn't even acknowledged that he gave a speech.

[in_cog_ni_to]

19. NONE.

The RNC is on the defense...just where we wnat them. Assholes. They know EVERYTHING Gore said is TRUE.

[Nickster]

9. They try to blow up Gore's speech by using small clips of out of context

junk otherwise known as purposely misleading crap to support themselves???

[deminks]

11. Bwahahahahaha

Just doesn't have the spirit that Al had. Too bad the RNC paid for that. Pitiful. Chimpy broke the law. Live with that, thugs.

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. Tracy Schmitt=FUCKING WENCH.

:grr:

Didn't Clinton correct this LIE about him and wireless searches on his 60 Minutes interview? I do believe he did. He said they always went to the court...maybe before or AFTER the fact, but they did go to the court.

[Avalux]

13. What a rediculous statement.

Incessant need to insert himself into the headline of the day???? Last time I checked, it had been quite awhile since we'd heard from Mr. Gore. Tracey Schmitt is a dumbass.

[ginnyinWI]

36. We all knew this was coming

Smear and fear, fear and smear.

Democrats are to be seen and not heard, those naughty little kids. :eyes: :sarcasm:

[ktlyon]

42. yes that is their tactic

they never respond to the facts presented, they just attack the speaker or say someone else did it too. Clinton is usually used, just like today. Responses you wouldn't let your kids get away with.

[Vincardog]

16. NOTE TO GOP re your response to Gore ZZZ ZZZZ ZZZZ ZZZ ZZZZ ZZZZZ ZZ ZZ

Your lies are getting soooo old and predictable. Will someone please wake me when the adults have regained control?

[proud patriot]

17. The Republican Party is a bunch of Cowards who are Scared

They prove it every time they open their mouths .

[Cassandra]

20. All disinformation, of course.

Physical searches for foreign intel didn't need a warrant at that time, so Clinton was obeying the law. When the law was changed, Clinton FOLLOWED THE LAW!!!

This:
"Al Gore's incessant need to insert himself in the headline of the day is almost as glaring as his lack of understanding of the threats facing America. While the President works to protect Americans from terrorists, Democrats deliver no solutions of their own, only diatribes laden with inaccuracies and anger."

is such a piece of shit, it always amazes me how the MSM can pass this along with a straight face. How long do you think it will be before Bush steals some of Gore's ideas and claims them for his own (while actually rendering them toothless).

[journalist3072]

21. Incessant need to insert himself into the headline of the day?

Are they saying they don't believe President Gore even has a right to speak out?

He is a former United States Congressman. Former Vice President. He was elected President in 2000. But most importantly, he is an American citizen like all of us.

The right for him to speak out is his birth right. It is all our birth rights.

And what's more, he has EARNED the right to speak out by the service he has given his country.

[papau]

CLINTON NEVER DID WARRENTLESS EAVESDROPPING/WIRETAPPING.

Clinton found the loophole and filed to close it and it was closed in 94. Seems they forget the word "eavesdropping" was in the early FISA Law and did not include "searches" -something that was fixed by Clinton.

CLINTON NEVER DID WARRENTLESS EAVESDROPPING/WIRETAPPING.

[Greybnk48]

22. Great!! The fact that they responded speaks volumes

rather than just ignore it.

[noamnety]

24. The points quoted here are all debunked by media matters

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512240002

[Dawgs]

34. My favorite response to the MM list...

'Hogwart wrote: "We are at war with an enemy that will stop at nothing to change our way of life" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps you Bush Loyalists haven't noticed, but the enemy already HAS changed our way of life. We now ignore Geneva Conventions, we confine people indefinitely without any legal representation, the Veep wants to be able to use torture and now Bush Loyalists are defending the President's right to spy on American citizens without a warrant.'

by starwheel

[carolinalady]

44. not to mention-the witholding of facts for important legislation

such as Medicare.

[Gregorian]

26. How dare anyone interrupt them while they're shredding the Constitution!

Hey, the corporations demand it. Damn the people. They don't count. They're just workers. We'll do whatever we want, because we're powerful, and rich.

Gore, you think too much.

We now return you to your favorite propaganda. Brought to you by us- the rich, the powerful, the antiamericans.

[ScreamingMeemie]

27. Yes...incessant need...as I sat and watched him and thought to myself.

"Wow he has changed a lot since I saw him last" Here is a man, rarely seen, who should be seen a lot more. :eyes:

[kentuck]

28. That's why Barr's comments were important....

which he was not ablr to give, for whatever reason...

[KoKo]

37. Good Point....which makes it all the more suspicious that Barr was on

sattelite feed instead of showing up in person. If he'd shown up in person..media would have had to report and the MSM would have sent reporters to make sure they covered the "spin." I'll bet the MSM knew it was sattelite (which was kind of a cop out by Barr) and the Bushies conveniently cut it.

Too much of a coincidence on this one to be :tinfoilhat: me thinks...and Gore left sitting on that stage for so long which could have interrupted the timing and delivery of the speech.

[carolinalady]

29. Just made the AP now that they have responded-that is good

it will hit more national outlets.

[undeterred]

30. Al Gore perfectly understands the threats facing America.

And the Bush regime is a huge part of what threatens America. Of course the RNC isn't going to like it.

[Cooley Hurd]

31. WEAKEST.RESPONSE.EVER... cripes, they're embarassingly lame...

"Al Gore's incessant need to insert himself in the headline of the day..."

I hope the RNC doesn't pay these people much, because they're getting ripped off.:eyes:

[carolinalady]

32. Well they certainly can not argue by point what he said because

he spoke the NAKED TRUTH.

[Lexingtonian]

33. Tracey Schmitt owes me a keyboard cleaning

While the President works to protect Americans from terrorists....:spray:

I'm willing to fly down to DC and give Dubya some pointers on (a) what "work ethic" means and how to live up to it, and (b) how to actually protect Americans from terrorists. Tracey Schmitt, if you're reading this- feel free to ask for my help!

[Penndems]

35. Sounds as if they're defecating themselves

If they didn't see former Vice President Gore as a threat, they wouldn't have responded so quickly, or gone to such much trouble to dig up dirt.

The RNC needs to find more reputable sources than The Washington Times.

BTW, any persons or organizations that have a problem with Aldrich Ames (an individual who literally sold this country and its secrets down the river many times over), who was tried and convicted of TREASON against the United States (and is currently serving a life sentence) being put under surveillance: Get the hell out ASAP. You're no American. You don't love America; you despise it. In fact, you're every bit as amoral, loathesome, despicable and common as Ames was/is.

Just to offer a little clarification to the RNC and its minions: The entire country wasn't eavesdropped upon to capture Ames - and his surveillance was done within the breadth and scope of the law, something you crooks can't seem to comprehend.

[newswolf56]

43. Three points:

(1)-Once again (as in his recent but almost totally suppressed warning that American liberty has never been in greater jeopardy), President Gore appears to be positioning himself to head a United States government in exile: a truly vital move if Bush uses another terrorist attack as a Reichstag Fire to cancel the fall Congressional elections or the 2008 presidential election. As the nation's only elected president ever denied office by a fascist coup, Gore is the ONLY logical chief executive of such a government (headquartered perhaps in Canada?) -- a point I make in response to the DUers who are jeering at his reappearance on the political scene.

(2)-While a few other Democrats (including John Edwards) have dared speak out against Bush's illegal surveillance and secret-police intimidation of Americans, none have the media stature of Gore, which gives him a decided advantage in terms of getting the message out (though that did not prevent total censorship of his no-greater-jeopardy speech in November).

(3)-Unfortunately the Republicans are correct in their implicit claim the Clinton Administration had no respect for the freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights: nearly everything in the so-called Patriot Act was originally proposed by Clinton Attorney General Janet Reno and -- to the eternal credit of the American Civil Liberties Union -- was as harshly condemned then as now by the ACLU and its allies (I am a longtime ACLU member). The difference between then and now was that in those days, Congress listened: there were enough libertarians in office to defeat Reno's proposals -- as I remember, the 1998 crime bill. Most of these libertarians were Democrats, but a few were the last surviving members of a species that is now wholly extinct: Republicans who aren't Nazis at heart.

Democratic and particularly Democratic Leadership Council complicity in the earlier Clinton/Reno effort to subvert the Constitution is no doubt why so many Democrats are too compromised to speak up now.

[carolinalady]

45. Someone nominated Sabra's thread and I am jealous.