Assuming Gore Is Right RE Constitutional Crisis

[cali]

and I do, is it time for Clinton to jump in and make a major speech about said Constitutional crisis? I know it's considered poor form for ex-president's to be overtly political, but a Gore pointed out, this transcends partisan politics.

[bryant69]

1. It is a gamble

It could be positive. On the other hand, Clinton can be a polarizing figure. It's hard to know how the middle and the right (those who are frusterated with Bush, anyway) would react to this.

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[fishwax]

10. I think only hard core righties still hate Clinton

He was a polarizing figure before the impeachment, but his numbers have been high since then, haven't they? Anyway, after five years of gw bush, I think that most moderates would love to have bill back :)

[spindrifter]

2. Yes--if

H.C. is not planning to do anything but stay in her Senate seat. I am not a fan of H.C.'s, but I also would not want to do anything that might jeopardize her position later on.
Otherwise, I think it is time for all potential Dem. candidates to get up an sound the clarion call. I think they should make it known that we mean business-=and not business as usual under the Rethug regime.

[LiberalEsto]

3. It's time for some Republicans to speak out on this

And then I would want both Clinton and Carter to speak up.

[mandyky]

4. No, but Gore was right all 2008 presidentials hopefuls

and all other officials up for election need to make investigating what has been done part of their campaign issues.

I think Clinton should butt out, because people will just say he is doing it for Hillary, etc.

[fishwax]

11. and part of their Alito decision

he shouldn't be confirmed unless he explicitly condemns the illegal wiretap of american citizens.

[blm]

5. Clinton was GREAT addressing the DSM on Letterman - really hit that one

out of the park when Letterman asked him point blank about the Downing Street Memos.

[Gatchaman]

6. Clinton is too polarizing

and he can't piss off his adopted daddy, George H.W.

After all, Bill Clinton is everything H.W. ever wanted in a son: intelligent, successful, charismatic, can tie his own shoes...

[fishwax]

12. he left office with the HIGHEST approval ratings of any departing pres

in history.

But he's too polarizing?

[blm]

15. Guess you didn't catch what he really said on Letterman.

Paraphrasing: I have never heard a THING about it, so I can't speak to it.

No way did he never hear about it - and WHY did he lie knowing damn well he was minimizing its import?

[newswolf56]

7. Clinton is nearly as compromised as Bush on constitutional issues:

Just about everything in the so-called Patriot Act was originally proposed in a Bill Clinton/Janet Reno crime bill (1998 as I remember) and then resoundingly defeated by a libertarian coalition in Congress. The coalition was largely inspired by the American Civil Liberties Union (I am a longtime member) and was made up mostly of Democrats but included a few Republicans too -- the minuscule number of Republicans who were not Nazis at heart: a GOP subspecies that is now wholly extinct. Seems to me the Clinton Administration also admitted to some extra-judicial domestic spying, claiming it was necessary to protect the U.S. from fascism -- an assertion ever more obviously true. In any case -- especially because of the crime bill proposals -- Clinton is vulnerable to accusations of hypocrisy and would do well to remain out of the picture.

(Personally I would not want to see Clinton -- either Clinton -- in any leadership role, precisely because of the Clintons' deep-rooted allegiance to the Democratic Leadership Council: the corporate/Republican Fifth Column within the Democratic Party and the very reason we now have an all-Republican {all-fascist} government.)

[cali]

8. Thank you so much

for this information. I vaguely remember the crime bill, but hadn't realized the scope of it.

[sallyseven]

9. Bull dockey.

Clinton should raise the specter of impeachment. He is not polarizing. Lets go full blast after bush.

[newswolf56]

13. "Specter" is right: without the specter of Clinton haunting Gore's...

campaign, not so many civil libertarians would have defected to the Greens.

For now the best -- that is, the most untainted -- spokespersons for an anti-Bush coalition are Boxer and Pelosi: not just because of their politics, but because of their gender: they can further erode Bush's support among women, the one group among the Republicans that might yet include (a few) open minds.

Meanwhile, Gore is superb (and getting better) at doing what he is doing: being president-in exile. Now if Edwards -- with his devastating critique of capitalism -- would only join Gore in a united front, we would finally have the makings of genuine hope: not only a restored Democratic Party, but the resurrection of the New Deal -- the only logical response to the forthcoming age of shortages.

[donkeyotay]

14. I called my Republican congressman to ask him when

the Republicans are going to hold this administration accountable. That's who needs to hear from us, the Republicans. This is their baby. It's time for them to decide whether they care for the country or their corrupt Republican crime family.

You've got the lack of accountability for 9-11.
You've got the issue of Republican companies counting our votes.
You've got the unprecedented appointment of Bush and his promise to be a uniter, when he turned out to be a bitter partisan divider.
You've got the lies told for war.
You've got the contracts and the looting of Iraq. The privatization of their oil and the botched post-invasion policies.
You've got the lack of support for the military (while the GOP-sponsers get fat no-bid contracts).
You've got Katrina and oh-my-god what happened to FEMA.
You've got the outing of Plame.
You've got the spying on citizens.
You've got the TORTURE.
and,
You've got Abramoff, which at this point is just an abbreviated way of saying the GOP has set new standards for the world in corruption.

And above all, you've got this marginal leader saying, "fuck you," I'm above the law.

And the GOP is good with all of this. Oh, and none of this could have been achieved without the media's complicity. Heckuva job.