Zogby Poll: 52% favor impeaching Bush over unlawful wiretaps

[WI_DEM]

56% of women say "impeach" to 49% of men--I guess this man recognizes the smarter sex.

www.zogby.com

p.s.
Zogby also has Bush's approval rating down to 39% from 44% last month.

[Fridays Child]

1. K & R!

[htuttle]

2. Wow, I guess I'm in the mainstream now

Fancy that! I don't feel any differently -- thought I'd feel, I don't know, 'taller' or something...

But why do people keep telling me that I'm on the 'fringe' if my opinion is in the majority?

[rodeodance]

3. First things first--get Repug Congress to bring this charge up!!

[rodeodance]

4. Most americans say to end war also.

[rumpel]

5. Also on Zogby, it says 39% are committed to vote for DeLay again

This is the same number that is strongly supporting *

Only half those who voted for him in '04 would do so again, poll finds
http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=12524

snip
Only about half of likely GOP primary voters now rate DeLay favorably, and only 39 percent are committed to voting for him in March.

and

snip
There's no evidence that DeLay's dwindling support represents a tarnishing of GOP strength in the 22nd District.
Forty-two percent identify themselves as Republicans, 27 percent as Democrats and 23 percent as independents. Republican President Bush enjoys a 55 percent approval rating in the district.

It would be interesting to find the details of these 39%, obviously these people do not care whether the person they vote into office is a criminal or not. This goes for both Bush and DeLay. Why? Who are they?

[mom cat]

6. Even Diebold can't fudge things that much!

[bertha katzenengel]

8. How can you be committed to vote for ANYONE this far in advance of

an election? What a bunch of morons. At this point, I won't even say I'm committed to voting for the Democratic nominee for president in 2008. :eyes:

[TahitiNut]

7. Try telling it to this member of the "smarter sex."

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[progressoid]

10. Oh god, everytime I see that woman, I wanna puke too.

[UrbScotty]

13. Or...

[Harper_is_Bush]

9. IPSOS could take lessons from Zogby in poll question creation.

"If President Bush wiretapped American citizens without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

Sweet.

[Tactical Progressive]

11. I bet the corporate media whorehouses

will be discussing all the permutations and ramifications of this situation for SIX HOURS A DAY, for months on end on their cable outlets.

Like they did with the oh-so-righteous and Constitutionally 'justified' Clinton impeachment.

They forced Clinton's impeachment into an eventuality AGAINST the people's demonstrable disfavor; AGAINST the plain intent of the US Constitution, and AGAINST their own ratings downfalls. They were bound and determined to make it happen no matter how much energy or professional trustworthiness they had to expend to do it.

Want to bet how an impeachment consideration of George W Bush will go as per these same 'journalistic' operators? No matter how Constitutionally justified; no matter how publically supported?

You'll be lucky to even hear of it once or twice in passing even in opinion journalism.

I'm glad that Zogby did the poll, and obviously with the results. But this is what will happen: you'll hear about the poll on CNN or NBC, we'll have a few triumphant DU threads, and that will be that except for Dems talking amongst themselves. It won't be part of the public debate. It isn't what our right-wing 'mainstream' media wants to think about, much less discuss in public.

American establishment journalism is ever and increasingly on the side of establishment power and Republican 'values'. They are no longer part of moving America forward, if they ever really were. In fact at this point they do nothing so much as keep America down and held back. Not slamming a Republican administration is part of that. They've been down at 10-20% resistance to these people from the start: from sleazy campaign to stolen election to leaving America open to terrorist attack to lying to start a war to outing CIA operations to torture to illegal domestic spying. They are operating at so far below even minimum standards of journalism that they aren't journalists any more at all.

Ignoring Bush impeachment is not even what should concern us. The real concern is this: if they are this abjectly supportive of BushCo - something which is so obviously contrary to the civic sensibility of any decent American - imagine how much more surrepticious they are, how much more insidious it is as they support more standard Republicanism in our society from decade to decade. If they are this blatantly right-wing supportive as they have been for the past eight years, think of what that means in less demonstrably corrupt times.

American journalism's now deeply inculcated right-wing ideology won't be pushing for a Republican impeachment any more than they wanted to question two trillion dollars in tax cuts worth of debt, or anything else Republicans want. Don't get your hopes up for anything better. It is much more productive to instead realize how stacked against progressive evolution the 'mainstream' media really is at its deepest precepts.

We need ONE GOOD Progressive media outlet.

[tuvor]

12. Unfortunately, that's not quite right.

The poll asked whether congress should consider impeachment:

"If President Bush wiretapped American citizens without the approval of a judge, do you agree or disagree that Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

Thanks to grytpype for setting me straight. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x156648#156735

And shame on the many news organizations who couldn't get the story right.

[jsamuel]

14. that number will only go up