Harwood:Lieberman Used GOP Talking Points in the Debate; Lamont Polished

[CatWoman]

John Harwood spoke much more candidly than I thought he would have tonight after the debate. He pointed out that Lieberman used Ronald Reagan’s and George Bush’s talking point strategies in his debate with Ned Lamont which is right in line with his Republican influences. He said that Lamont spoke directly to the people and came off very polished.

Harwood: He used the old Ronald Reagan line, "There you go again," to Ned Lamont and he used the strategy that George W. Bush used against John Kerry in 2004…

Noron: Is that going to work for him, adopting these Republican strategies when in many ways the heart of this debate is that Lieberman is too much like Bush…

Harwood: and you gotta say, Ned Lamont was a very polished and effective performer for somebody who lacks experience running against somebody who ran for President…

Noron: I agree with you…

I don’t think that the war is the only position that Lamont is running on, but they did frame it that way. Harwood gave a bit too much credit to the netroots because the local CT’ers have been turning out in droves to support Ned. Norah and Harwood both thought Ned did a really good job for a man who has had no experience in a debate like this one before.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/

[Cha]

1. joe's idol..

"he used the strategy that George W. Bush used against John Kerry in 2004…

What was that? LIE, Trash, Lie, Swiftboat, osama tape, LIE, TRASH.

[CatWoman]

3. he did all of the above

Fact Checking Lieberman
By: John Amato on Thursday, July 6th, 2006 at 6:08 PM - PDT

Matt Stoller :

The most significant lies were his assertions that he stood strong against Social Security from the first day Bush proposed privatization, and that he doesn’t support an open-ended commitment in Iraq (he does in fact supports permanent military bases).

February 18, 2005:

Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., is undecided about the concept of using payroll taxes to fund private Social Security accounts, bringing to three the known number of Senate Democrats who have yet to publicly rule out the idea. President Bush has made the accounts the centerpiece of his domestic agenda. But other than Rep. Allen Boyd of Florida, no congressional Democrats have formally signed on. While Lieberman has concerns about the idea, he is continuing to study it while hoping for more details on Social Security from the president, a Lieberman aide said today. "He’s still in a listening and learning stage and is keeping an open mind, but he does have concerns about private accounts as carve-outs that would potentially undermine the guaranteed minimum benefit and worsen our fiscal health and debt load," a Lieberman aide said today.

Lieberman, 4/20/03:

"We may, over the long term, with the consent of the new Iraqi government, establish some permanent bases in Iraq. And wouldn’t that be a dramatic change, where we have an allied government there in Iraq, at the center of the Middle East, where we may have not a permanent police presence, but one or another military base that’s working in cooperation with the government there?"

http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/06/fact-checking-lieberman/

[wakeme2008]

2. LOL when a person from the WSJ starts making fun of you

You history...Joe

[CatWoman]

5. all the king' s horses, and all the king's men

couldn't find joe's momentum again :D

[gumby]

4. Really?

I'm surprised that Noron didn't totally trash Lamont.

[CatWoman]

6. maybe after the way she trashed Cindy

she is on her best behavior tonight.

[wordpix2]

7. thanks, I missed the debate but it's coming up at 11 pm on WVIT-NBC in CT

[wordpix2]

8. "test case" in CT for liberal base

[wordpix2]

9. Ned "polished and effective "and Norah O'Donnel agrees with Harwood

Liberman is having a fit right now with these talking heads giving Lamont the nod.

:toast:

[Rainscents]

10. Was this on C-Span? If so, I miss it.

Damn it!

[CatWoman]

11. yes it was

check their page -- it will be replayed later tonight.

[Kahuna]

12. Harwood is a "reporter." He calls is straight just about 99.9%

of the time. He's a rare one alright. He constantly amazes me.

[H2O Man]

13. "Courage of my convictions..."

My teen-aged son asked why Joe didn't wear a "Courage of My Convictions" t-shirt. I said he must not have seen his buddy Scooter to get one.

[Swamp Rat]

14. LOL!

Smart kid. :D

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Lieberman all of a sudden announced, "I am joining the Republican Party!" ("HAHA!")

[H2O Man]

16. Yikes!

He really is a neoconservative. No more, no less.

[CatWoman]

15. how could you have a teenaged son?

you're just a teenager yourself :hi:

[H2O Man]

17. I keep reminding

my wife that my grandfather had his 14th child at age 70.

[CatWoman]

18. oh my!!!!

:wow: