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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:13 AM
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Neo-Nazi's in Iraq---just lovely.
The Daily Muck
By Paul Kiel and Justin Rood - July 7, 2006, 7:40 AM

U.S. Exports Hate Groups to Iraq
"We've got Aryan Nations graffitti in Baghdad. . . that's a problem," a Defense Department investigator is quoted as saying in a new report. Neo-Nazi groups have long sought to place members in the U.S. armed forces, as a way to train them on the use of weapons and explosives for the "race war" they believe is imminent. The Pentagon has had a ten-year declared "zero tolerance" policy towards such volunteers -- but the report, from the domestic terror-tracking Southern Policy Law Center, says pressure on recruiters as a result of the Iraq war has led to violent racists getting accepted -- and trained, and deployed.

The report quotes Scott Barfield, a Defense Department investigator, saying, "Recruiters are knowingly allowing neo-Nazis and white supremacists to join the armed forces, and commanders don't remove them from the military even after we positively identify them as extremists or gang members."
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001072.php
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:19 AM
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1. Que?
:wtf:

Just when you think the world can't make any less sense...! :crazy:
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:21 AM
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2. better check out the background of the rapist/murderer and friends...nt
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:22 AM
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3. Oh wonderful. Not only are Islamist terrorists being trained in Iraq
It looks like we're now training the next Timothy McVeigh. Isn't that great?
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:24 AM
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4. Surprise! Hate groups join the military voluntarily, assholes.
How better to kill a non-white legally? That's why they're in law enforcement as well.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:27 AM
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6. yean, Nazis in the military... big shocker there...
:sarcasm:

Who'da thunk it? :eyes:

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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:26 AM
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5. Didn't someone once say that
Edited on Fri Jul-07-06 08:28 AM by Drum
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"?

(but porphyrian, are ya calling us assholes??)
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 10:26 AM
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15. That was Samuel Johnson, but it was aimed at Scoundrels not patriots.
Basically, like religion, Scoundrels will use other's love of Country to further THEIR agenda. Thus it was aimed more at someone like Bush, who regularly uses other Love of Country top further his Agenda of helping himself and his corporate allies (Bush Also uses Religion the same way, as a tool to advance his agenda NOT to follow the dictate of his or any other religion).

Bush is the type of person who if it would advance his personnel power would denounce the US and Christianity in a heart beat, just like he is using Patriotism and Christianity today to advance his power. Thus Bush is the type of Scoundrel Samuel Johnson was talking about hen he made his famous quote.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 10:58 AM
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18. that's just what I meant...
and there are others (a few, but still) too who use time in the military as another sort of training....

Thx for the citation on that quote....
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 10:37 AM
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16. only if you are a hate group
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:28 AM
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7. These will be the stormtroopers...
These will be the boots knocking down our doors at midnight.

In many a time, in many a land,
With many a gun in many a hand,
They came by the night, they came by the day,
Came with their guns to take us away

With a knock on the door, knock on the door.
Here they come to take one more,
One more.

Back in the days of the Roman Empire,
They died by the cross and they died by the fire.
In the stone coliseum, the crowd gave a roar,
And it all began with that knock on the door

Just a knock on the door, knock on the door.
Here they come to take one more,
One more.

The years have all passed, we've reached modern times,
The Nazis have come with their Nazi war crimes.
Yes the power was there, the power was found,
Six million people have heard that same sound

That old knock on the door, knock on the door.
Here they come to take one more,
One more.

Now there's many new words and many new names,
The banners have changed but the knock is the same.
On the Soviet shores with right on their side,
I wonder who knows how many have died

With their knock on the door, knock on the door.
Here they come to take one more,
One more.

Look over the oceans, look over the lands,
Look over the leaders with the blood on their hands.
And open your eyes and see what they do,
When they knock over their friend they're knocking for you

With their knock on the door, knock on the door.
Here they come to take one more,
With their knock on the door, knock on the door.
Here they come to take one more,
One more.
~~~ Phil Ochs, Knock on the Door

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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 09:19 AM
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13. Thanks, annabanana!
Not one of my favorites of Phil's songs but definitely one of the most chilling and memorable.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:29 AM
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8.  self-delete
Edited on Fri Jul-07-06 08:30 AM by npincus
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:32 AM
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9. Damn Dave Chappelle...
every time I hear white supremacist I think of his sketch, "the black white supremacist."

On the story, I'm gonna say it's a bad thing to let these people join the army and then go to Iraq. This might explain some of the problems we have been having over there with the atrocities. Normal soldiers don't do that, I think it probably has something to do with this.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:44 AM
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10. Chappelle nailed it, didn't he?
Brilliant! Had to divorce his wife for being a n_____ lover.

It really point out the stupidity in a hilarious fashion!
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:47 AM
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11. Their chief racist has a daily radio program on Armed Forces Radio
Rush Limbaugh one racist MFer. I have a good idea let's politicize the military and get them to hate Liberals. Oops it is already being done with the approval of our Democrats in Congress.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:51 AM
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12. I've seen this first hand trumad
I drive cab on a post and I had this one carfull one night that. Well lets just say these guys could have been poster boys for the Aryan Nation. From their tatoos to subtle comments like "I hate all N*******, they should all be killed...but I hate Mexicans even more than I hate N.....'s," you get the point. They were just talking this way like it was just normal conversation. They must have thought I was "down" because one made a few comments like" yeah the cabbie knows what I'm saying"

My karma suffers everytime I don't stand up to one of these idiots but I have to be semi-professional if I want to keep eating so I suffer a lot of venom in silence. Also i'm trying to glean things from these guys so I use some subterfuge now and again.

What struck me as strange about these hatemongers is that they apparently hated their Commander in Chief as much if not more than Blacks and Mexicans and one made some open threats toward him. I got the vibe that they had a lot of friends. I'm getting the sense it may be almost one whole unit out here. Very few minorities and they're are the scariest mother fuckers on this base when they get drinking.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 09:42 AM
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14. It would be easy to diagnose a neo-nazi
Edited on Fri Jul-07-06 09:42 AM by izzybeans
with a personality disorder given the expansive def. of mental disorder in the DSM. I suppose that when this person hit the clinic his clinician and case managers would know this all to well. re: the rapist/murder "sociopath"
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 10:48 AM
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17. And, they are there
fighting in our name. Just when I thought there was no way to feel more appalled at this occupation and the death and the torture and the murder and the rape... now we're importing Nazis.

Ugh, it's disgusting and humiliating, and WRONG.

TC
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