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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:35 PM
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i just donated to the DNC
I support the party. I support HOWARD DEAN. I support WINNING IN 2006.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:36 PM
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1. I will NOT donate to the DNC until I see what happens with Alito
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:37 PM
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3. bully for you n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:42 PM
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7. they have taken a good chunk of my change for the last 30 years
some were good, and some were bad, but the last six years have been the worst

I will donate to INDIVIDUAL CANDIADATES who represent LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE issues, unless of course they stand up against Alito.

Hey, I am not alone on this one
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:47 PM
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11. I'm with you
I'm not willing to risk that one penny of my money goes to a DINO who votes for crap like the bankruptcy or the "budget reconcilliation" bill.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:40 PM
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4. I guess you like having a Republican Congress n/t
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feelthebreeze Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:46 PM
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10. Do not let fear like that betray your demands for the actions of truth.
I assume you missed Gore's speech today. We the people must not play politics. We the people must demand and reclaim our Democracy. That means you oppose lack of opposition to that which you know is unhealthy to a Democracy. Begin to demand truth and allegiance to Democracy from both sides and do it now before it is too late.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:53 PM
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15. Thank-you
he is right, and I hope it is NOW before it is too late, because in most cases people do NOT act unless they are directly affected
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:51 PM
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14. They should have thought about that in 2000 and 2004 when it counted
They promised me the voting would be assured in 2004. Nothing was done, or is being done

Individual candidates will get my support, but not the party as a whole.

Where was the DNC for the last 6 years?

Why was Russ Feingold one of the few Democrats who voted against the Patriot Act? BECAUSE HE READ IT

They will need to prove themselves to me before they get another dime

Like I said, individual Democrats have, but far too many do NOT stand up for what is right, and if they let the Alito nomination go without fighting it with everything they have including a filibuster, EVEN if the repukes exercise the NUKE option, then they don't represent ME as a group

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:58 PM
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18. the head of the DNC today was not there in 2004
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:05 PM
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22. I like Howard Dean, and he has to do what he has to do
but there are many in our party who jump on Dean when he speaks truth to power. Remember biden saying that Dean doesn't represent the democratic party or something like that a few months back

This is the only way I can tell the Democratic party as a whole, that I want them to stand for something, and that is through the pocket book


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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:59 PM
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19. I don't, and I still donate to the DNC just not as much as I did before.
I had a long and delightful conversation with a guy who was calling on behalf of the DNC on Halloween night. After I explained to him that we have a senate race in this state, a challenger for Zach Wamp, a LOT of local candidates, and that I'm trying to contribute to all of them plus my state and county parties, trying to help to get Democracy for Chattanooga off and running he relaxed and we had a really long, fun conversation that lasted for over 15 mins.

I know that the money that I donate to the candidates who are running for office in my community benefits them as soon as my check clears the bank. The DNC and DFA may have to take a back seat for a while.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:35 PM
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31. i would be more inclined to give to the locals. nt
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. I second that...
I will never donate to the DNC until I see the defeat of judge Alito...and that is a promise.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:56 PM
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17. You have to give them a little slack on that one though
They may filibuster alito, but if the repukes exercise the nuke option, then alito will get in, but it won't be because the Democrats didn't try

That is all I am asking, BE AN OPPOSITION PARTY, AND STAND FOR SOMETHING

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:10 PM
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25. Same here.
ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION DNC?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:21 PM
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30. a little, but mostly individual candidates
I am really jumping on feinstein who is one of my senators, who made comments yesterday why we shouldn't filibuster

I wrote her today, and will be calling her tomorrow to reconsider her position

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:37 PM
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2. thank you. i have an amount taken out thru credit card every month
i want the house and senate back and the white house in 2008. i think dean is doing a kick ass job regardless of being a non perfect human being and i support the democratic party, (not my party), every step of the way
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:41 PM
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5. i don't know how much you give. but i have other causes that
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 08:42 PM by catmother
need my money, i.e., red cross, food banks, ASPCA, PETA and various other charities.

i'll probably get flamed.

on edit: there are a lot of very rich people out there who can give to the politicians.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. i have other charities i give to also.
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 08:45 PM by seabeyond
on edit: i keep coming back. it isnt the point of whether you should donate to them. i am a believer that we chose i charity. everyone has their passion that is where the money should go. i am tired of the continued bashing of dem when i have seen them work so hard this last year with a wall at every turn, including the fellow dems on this board. and for people to say grow a spine or i wont get money makes me say wtf. the very org they are yelling at has dean bashing wolfie, in plain clear terms. yet still i hear people go after him for that and further say, ..... dems say nothing

i am not saying we have to donate to dnc. that isnt my call. that isnt what my post is about
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LoveMyCali Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. What difference does it make
if we have Republicans in Congress or Democrats who act like Republicans. :shrug:

Maybe I could be persuaded to donate if they use the money to buy a backbone.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:17 PM
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27. that is a bullshit line and was used to keep people from voting
if you cannot see a distinction between the dem and the repug i would say you as uniformed as many of the people i come upon in a course of the day, that are totally non political and aware of what is happening in there world. i could even go so far as to say this is about the stupidest thing i hear from people
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. I happen to agree with LoveMyCali.
She is not uninformed, and neither am I. She was criticizing those Democrats who continue to let us down. I keep track of how my Democratic senators vote, and they have disappointed me many times. The most we can do is to keep after them, but there are so many factors at stake, especially the 2006 elections, and that influences what they are willing to support and how they vote. And money does speak, so we need to let them know that donations are contingent on actions. Too many, especially now, are unwilling to speak out for fear of alienating constituents. We need to let them know that we are unwilling to support anyone, with donations or votes, who isn't willing to stand up and speak out, and that includes Democrats.:-(

As for the House, we have a Freeper congressman who is socially progressive, but supports Bush* on major issues, like Homeland Security. Unfortunately, he has yet to face serious opposition in a red district. Sometimes it seems as if John Conyers and Dennis Kucinich are the only reps willing to step up to the plate and continuing speaking out. And I'm beginning to wonder if they've managed to clone the amazing John Conyers. We need more members of Congress like him, but not everyone has his courage, or Kucinich's.:kick:

I agree that too many people are uninformed, but, for the rest of us, continuing to challenge Democrats, when they don't live up to expectations, is one of the most important things we can do. We need to oppose Republicans, as well, but we have a much better chance of engaging Democrats.:shrug:
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #6
13. you're probably not rich. do you think the little bit of money you
give makes them work harder for you.

when a person is out campaigning i'm sure they stay in nice hotels, and eat in good restaurants. if they want my money they can start staying at motel 6 and eating at denny's.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #13
28. i am so not going to go there with the money i donate catmother
i know they need money to run campaigns, ads and other stuff to get elected. yes, i think it makes a difference. i think a little from a lot of people makes a big difference
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:37 PM
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32. i don't want to know how much you give. and maybe every little
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 09:42 PM by catmother
bit counts. i have to admit i did give to kerry -- not a lot, but i did.

i'll give it some thought. if i do decide to give it will not be a lot. i do give quite a bit to some of the charities i mentioned before.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:44 PM
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9. if you don't do those 3 things are you a bad democrat? :-)
if you have an independent mind and free will, are you a bad democrat? if you don't donate to the DNC does that mean
you hate the party and howard dean and want to lose in 2006?

btw I donate to local things too but I like Howard Dean and wish he was running for pres in 2008.

but he has said he will not and I believe him to be honorable, so :-(

Msongs
www.msongs.com/dean2008.htm
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:59 PM
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20. Giving to the DNC does not mean you're giving to the politicians
Well, not rich ones necessarily. You're giving to build up the structure in the party we will need to do the things that people are calling for. How are we supposed to build the grassroots and stuff if people are going to take an attitude like yours?

And anyway, do you want those rich people having more say than you in the party. Because if the Dem Party turns to them more and more, just when we impressed upon them that small donors could also make a difference, then the small donors will have missed their chance to have a larger voice.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:06 PM
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23. is giving to the DNC tax deductible. i know some of them are not
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:08 PM
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24. If I recall correctly, it says on the back of the DNC membership form
that it is not tax deductible.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:14 PM
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26. that really sucks. n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:19 PM
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29. Must be some federal regulation. Eh, I don't give enough
for it to make a difference anyway.

But what I do give goes to the DNC and to the county party. It ain't much, but it's something.

Of course I do give money to various things throughout the year. But nothing planned. Usually in the form of sponsorships or church giving or somesuch.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:54 PM
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16. Frankly I think you have to draw a line somewhere
I would not want to support any Democrat in the Senate who believe that Judge Alto is good for America. My money and my efforts should be limited to that of my believe...and to that of ideals.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:00 PM
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21. This is going to be interesting
For one thing the DNC knows what it happening, and this is NOT falling on deaf ears

Leahy(sic) delayed the confirmation for one week. I am hoping they are getting their act together

I believe they know there are a lot of pissed off Democrats, liberal, and progressives out there, and they may just surprise us. As they say past history does not guarantee furture performance, I certainly hope it doesn't

Here is a prayer that they do the right thing

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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 09:47 PM
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33. When I give to the DNC
I write things like "FOR HOWARD DEAN" and "I ONLY SUPPORT TRUE PROGRESSIVE CANDIDATES" and (when I'm pissed off) "NO MORE WIMPS!!!!"

I can only make small donations, but I figure if I chip in a few bucks then I am going to make sure I express my opinion about the direction that the party should take.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 10:05 PM
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35. Fine, but skip the DSCC
You have no control over where that money goes. If you are going to donate to congressional candidates outside your district, pick them on the basis of your values. I have faith in Dean's 50 state strategy for bottom-up organizing, so the DNC is a different matter.
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