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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 03:58 PM
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Veterans being denied freedom of speech at VA hospitals an clinics
You all have heard about the Veteran For Peace wearing a shirt that had their logo on it. He was arrested an removed from VA hospital Grounds.
Here is a stroy that breaks this veterans heart!
Bobby a Military Familiy for peace member and a retired Major was toss out of a PTSD clinic for wearing a Bush Sucks Tee Shirt.
Now here is my brother veterans story. Bobby lost his son in Iraq to an IED. He started to see the signs of his PTSD getting worst. So he went to a Clinic for his PTSD. The VA cop who was there grab him cuff him and tossed him out of the clinic. Saying to this former combat veterans don't you ever come back to this clinic.
Now look I was wounded in Nam an at Walter Reed Army Hospital on my cast where the letters FTA . Not one word or reaction from officers or Sgt's was said.
Has This Country just gone Insane under Republicans? Where is are freedom of speech gone? We need change now!
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grilled onions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:19 PM
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1. This Is The Freedom They Fought(and fight) for?
This should be shouted from the rafters. "They" are so good at playing the same tune on their wartime Victrola--fight for freedom;fight for peace yet when a soldier comes back he finds freedom is not what he thought it was when he went in. What part of free speech don't they understand?
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:38 PM
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2. You are right on target
I wore a Tee Shrit today out to where Bush stomp for Hastert that said Bush give me back the freedoms I bled for
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kdpeters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 04:32 AM
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3. I can see the reasoning for the prohibition to exist
I don't feel comfortable with visitors bringing political statements on the war or the President -- pro or con -- in an environment where those most directly and profoundly affected are trying to recover. I would support such a rule if the policy were written and enforced in a way that didn't discriminate against certain viewpoints. For instance, if a person wearing a "God Bless George Bush" t-shirt were to be treated the same as the man with the "Bush Sucks" t-shirt, I'd think that fair and appropriate. But if you think that man would be treated like a criminal, cuffed and forcibly removed, then you probably believe there's a war on Christmas and that Christians are a persecuted, powerless victim class oppressed by atheists, gays, and all those Jews that run Hollywood and the New York Times.

To be clear, these men were not treated fairly. But if there is some such policy that ostensibly is for the benefit of the patients, it's important that it be fair, for some of those troops don't support the president and don't agree with the war. Neither should they have to encounter someone else's Bushbot message in their face while they're trying to get well.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 04:53 AM
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4. Can I ask, what city this happened in? That's outright abusive. n/t
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