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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:01 PM
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whoever doing closed captioning on cspan either drunk or on crack
Edited on Fri Jul-07-06 04:04 PM by ima_sinnic
anybody else happen to notice? that stuff is gibberish! I do sympathize with having to type fast, but a certain skill level is assumed for important stuff like nationwide broadcasts--
I'm trying to catch a little of dimbulb giving his schpiel (see below) --as a copy editor of many many English as a Second Language papers I wondered if the captioning hadn't actually been, well, er, outsourced.
Whatever C-SPAN is paying, it's too much! There's really no excuse for it. This stuff COULD be so useful for We The People who are hard of hearing, not native English speakers, or caught in a waiting room or noisy place where the sound can't be heard.

on edit: oh DOH--is it voice recognition stuff? geesh, it really has been outsourced.
geesh. :rant:

and concerning his imperial fraudulency's latest flatulose nose-drippings, the bit I caught: he reminds everybody of his initial grandiose and patently fake claims of how "every avenue of diplomacy had been taken, blah blah blah, he was warned, disarm, do this, do that--or ELSE."

can NOBODY in that pack of bacon fat taking notes not ask, "Sir, since it did become clear that he had indeed "disarmed"--why are we still there?"

2nd :rant: :smoke:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:04 PM
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1. automatic closed captioning is largely phoenetic..
I find it amusing..(Of course I don't have to rely on it)

On the lack of serious questions... We have to keep on pestering them..
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:04 PM
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2. I always thought they used speech recognition software n/t
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:07 PM
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3. but why have I never noticed this before w other stations?
ok, granted, some is preprogrammed, right? maybe? taken from a script like a news broadcast?
but I don't remember being quite so distracted by pure gibberish before in a "live" broadcast.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:20 PM
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8. I dunno
It's just what I've always assumed. On further invesigation, I found this, but it was written in 2002:

Real-time captioning

Real-time captions are created as an event takes place. A captioner (often trained as a court reporter or stenographer) uses a stenotype machine with a phonetic keyboard and special software. A computer translates the phonetic symbols into English captions almost instantaneously. The slight delay is based on the captioner's need to hear the word and on the computer processing time. Real-time captioning can be used for programs that have no script; live events, including congressional proceedings; news programs; and nonbroadcast meetings, such as the national meetings of professional associations.

Although most real-time captioning is more than 98 percent accurate, the audience will see occasional errors. The captioner may mishear a word, hear an unfamiliar word, or have an error in the software dictionary. Often, real-time captions are produced at a different location from the programming and are transmitted by phone lines. In addition to live, real-time captioning, captions are being put on prerecorded video, rental movies on tape and DVD, and educational and training tapes using a similar process but enabling error correction.


http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/hearing/caption.htm
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:44 PM
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9. oh thanks for the info! but see--a human is needed to edit
--I've noticed a slight delay on CNN and theirs is pretty accurate--so CSPAN must just be sending it out w/out human intervention.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 07:11 PM
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11. Hey, no prob
Kind of interesting to research. I don't need CC at this time, but my mom does. Also, when my "latin lover" is here I have to put the audio language on Spanish and CC in English and then I've noticed that some of the CC on local news broadcasts is oft times pretty garbled. As in, there aren't even words, just symbols.

And, hey, I just noticed that you're a fellow Floridian. :hi: And that our screen names are rather similar. :toast:

-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:09 PM
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4. Now that they've found the mustard gas
Junior is feeling his oats..."See? We were right after all..."

Sick bastard.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:11 PM
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6. What mustard gas?
Have I missed something?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:15 PM
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7. Pre-Gulf-War-I Mustard Gas abandoned in a warehouse sold by Carlyle Group
Edited on Fri Jul-07-06 04:16 PM by IanDB1
...who now own Duncan Donuts.

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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 06:03 PM
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10. Okay, I remember that.
Thanks.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 04:09 PM
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5. You just can't get good help any more
...especially when you outsource closed captioning to India:shrug: :yoiks: :spray:
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