Lay dead. "CHECK THE COFFIN" a broadcaster just said on CNN...

[Jeffersons Ghost]

She was quoting an online blog and implied the idea of him hoaxing death is idiotic. She went on to criticize online political writing in general. Keep up the good work. Someone hit a nerve. If they did open the blackest of boxes; I'd say, "how about a DNA test?"

What is FAR more interesting is that the bite followed a story about the government not being able to attach Lays' assets, now that he is dead and no longer considered guilty. I've certainly seen the government attach the ill-gotten gains of run-of-the-mill dead convicted criminals, in the past. What's the difference?

BTW, I want to go on record right now,
as saying, drive a stake through the heart,
even if they appear dead!

[brmdp3123]

1. The difference is

that he did not exhaust his appeals before he died.

[benburch]

4. Nope. It is that he was not sentenced.

And in THAT appeals circuit, and ONLY that one, the precedent is that if you die before sentencing your guilty verdict is vacated.

[brmdp3123]

8. I stand corrected.

[hang a left]

9. And he dies in a rental during 4th of July weekend when

the usual coroner is out of town. It is just too tidy, don't ya think?

[LSparkle]

12. And he's being CREMATED so we'll never know for sure

They sprayed pictures of Al Zarqawi all over the papers -- I WANNA SEE DEAD KEN!!!!!!

[Jeffersons Ghost]

14. so you're saying it's a local legal custom ONLY in that court, ben?

hmmm, that would be an odd local custom ideed.

[benburch]

17. Correct. In that appeals jurisdiction.

Which is more than one court, but appeals precedent applies only there. To become a national precedent it would have to go to the Supreme Court on a challenge.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

20. his family and FRIENDS that he owes money to, sure are fortunant...

If coincidence was any kinder,I'd swear his last name was bush.

[AndreaCG]

16. In NYS if you die before sentencing

It is considered abated by death and not a conviction.

[benburch]

18. States have their own similar rules.

But this was federal jurisdiction.

[originalpckelly]

2. It was the New York Post...

and they did it yesterday for their cover.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

10. she didn't mention she plagiarized it from the competition... LOL...

Are you sure those were the exact words?

[originalpckelly]

13. I think so...

they said something like, "Cheato Lay Dead? Check the coffin!"

[Jeffersons Ghost]

15. I've got to get a subscription to that mag today! thanks....

what a headline! what a mag! they're talking about us now, IN DEPTH, on CNN.

[malaise]

19. Here is the Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/07/06/ny-post-wants-lay_n_24479.html

add link

[Jeffersons Ghost]

22. thanks... i read it. I didn't know Lay was self-made, born of commoners...

He's not old money and expendable to the aristocracy. I think he was a fall-guy from the start, now.

[grasswire]

3. who was it?

Kitty Pilgrim?

[KurtNYC]

5. "Cheney did not have a heart attack" - GWB 11/20/2000

"(Schiavo) is responsive" - B. Frist
Ken Lay is dead.

In the immortal words of Sesame Street: Which of these things is not like the others?

[WhiteTara]

6. the third one isn't attributed?

:shrug: I guess it was said by too many people for a first statement credit to be given. But do notice that it will be a cremation, so voila! No coffin to open.

[upi402]

7. DNA test the replacement body.

Fight the burning of the evidence.
Civil cases against the families inheritance.
Piss on the crypt.

Now there's a sound bitten plan for the TV news whores.

[Swamp Rat]

23. LOL!

[Virginia Dare]

11. Is Linda sitting pretty now?

Sorry, I've been away and out of the loop, but what does this mean for his widow? Who benefits from this? Obviously not Kenny boy, unless he faked his death.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

24. it may be too soon to tell but it's beginning to look like she is...

so are "friends" of the deceased that he perhaps owed money to.

[Joanne98]

25. It means that SHE ends up with ALL the money.

[Octafish]

21. After he's cremated, we'll never really know.

If we can put Zarqawi's head on TV, we damn well ought to be able to tell if the nation's biggest swindler has checked out.

ABSOLUTE ZERO

[Imagevision]

26. The Government had no problem going after Sammy Davis jr.

after he died forcing the seklling of his house and personal possesion to pay for back taxes...