AAR tonight: John Dean and Glenn Greenwald

[Gabi Hayes]

some freeper on now, interrupting guest host after asking him if host would've invaded Afghanistan pre-911, based on on the Aug. 6 PDB

pretty funny exchange....freeper thought he had the host, but the host replied that an invasion would have done nothing, that it was already too LATE; they were already in the US.

proper response would have been to warn proper persons/agencies of interest HERE (like, oh, say, the AIRlines), in order that at least minimum precautions could have been taken.

[smokey nj]

1. That caller was dumber than dirt......

and Jon Elliot was too nice.

[originalpckelly]

2. I know I posted about the caller....

I was dying in laughter! How could someone be so incapable of speaking American English. That's what he gets for living in Dumbfuckistan.

[smokey nj]

3. From here on out, the Aug. 6 PDB should now be referred to as.......

the Aug. 7 PDF.

[Gabi Hayes]

4. is that what he called it? are you series?

I missed that

Greenwald, per ben burch, is going to be on against David Horowitz tonight: Alan Colmes radio show.

I have Sirius and am going to catch that....Horowitz is really one of the worst, because he's having an actual impact on the country with his incredibly McCarthyite (and, unfortunately very successful) campaign against academic freedom, abetted by none OTHER than Joe Lieberman!!

[originalpckelly]

5. I know...

:rofl:

[Gabi Hayes]

7. hahaaaaa

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1589335

[Gabi Hayes]

6. Dean on now....talking about some amendment passed in 2005

which tried to take SCOTUS jurisdiction away from Hamdan cases:

Detainee Treatment Act (McCain amendment on torture)

[originalpckelly]

8. I remember the original story by Ms. Bazelon

very good article. I also read the Dean article this past week.

I knew that Kyl and Graham did this and posted the law it broke (18 USC 1001(a)) when the first arguments for the Hamdan case were given. It isn't a violation of the rules of the supreme court, but it is of the law.

[Gabi Hayes]

9. yep. there were some good threads about this at DU

Kyl and Graham really pulled a filthy, dirty trick during the debate...after, actually

there was a little bit of a stink raised over Stephens catching them on that during the SCOTUS session.

of course, no mention of it in the M$M

[originalpckelly]

10. Here is the law, I sent it into Elliot...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00001001----000-.html

[Gabi Hayes]

11. interesting.....Dean mentioned his new book, with reference to the

Kyl/Graham fiasco:

Conservatives Without Conscience

has a certain ring to it, yes?

[originalpckelly]

12. Yep...

I think I'll be buying that book.

[originalpckelly]

13. I forgot to mention Kyl & Graham are subject to prosecution...

because they aren't parties to the case, and do not have the immunities guaranteed under the law for parties to the case.

[Gabi Hayes]

14. that's VERY interesting...the host asked Dean if they'll be "punished''

I missed the answer, but inferred earlier, during DU discussion, that it wasn't something they could be nailed for

of course, it's not going to happen, but it would be wonderful to see 'rule of law' creep Graham get nailed on something like that

[originalpckelly]

17. He said it didn't violate the rules of the Supreme Court...

but it does violate the law. I am certain Dean didn't look up the law. The only reason I am familiar with it is that it was Bush's first impeachable offense (he lied to Congress during the 2003 State of the Union.)

[Gabi Hayes]

15. Will Marshall, progressive policy institute, on now

got some book out; compilation of Clinton-era foreign policy/diplomatic hands who posit plan to handle "Islamic jihadism" or something like that.

host said he's the originator of the DLC

yep....he and Al From, 1985

says US has squandered moral authority in world as a result of any number of missteps: Abu Ghraib, NSA wiretapping.....(how many OTHERS?)

[smokey nj]

16. This guy signed the PNAC statement?.......

Did I hear that correctly?

[originalpckelly]

18. I know...

Project to Corrupt Both the Republican and Democratic Party (that is what John Dean's new book will be about.)