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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 06:58 PM
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drinking nasty tap water to save on plastic bottle
Edited on Sat Jul-08-06 07:17 PM by seabeyond
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i found it kinda condescending being chewed out because i have had to weigh letting kids drink tap water that tends to turn the teeth brown and who knows what it does to the body, not to mention tastes like crap and leaves a person thirsty and mouth dry....... to using the same plastic container over and over to get drinkable water that actually quenches the thirst. only to learn the plastic leaks leaving carcinogens for all of us, rolling eyes.

what i have found is those that use the tap has nice tasting water and they appear to be confident they arent being poisoned. while those of us that have nasty water and are suspicious tend to go to the bottle. not many of the people with good tasting water are using bottle. not many of the crappy tasting tap is being used by us

do you think maybe some of the arrogance telling me to not use bottle water may have something to do with the result of the poll?

just curious.

at what point are we going to recognize how damn intolerant we have become as a people insisting all chose a specific way of walking life, ignoring difference in thought, experience or uniqueness and individuality......?

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:00 PM
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1. A lot IMHO depends on where you live
Bottled is the only way to go in Tampa, but in Roanoke, Va the tap is just fine....

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:05 PM
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5. alamogordo is another place where bottled is necessary, as the water
Edited on Sat Jul-08-06 07:08 PM by niyad
is completely vile. I wouldn't even cook with it. my cats, sensibly, would not go near it. oh yes,and in reno, there was arsenic in the water. no way I would drink or cook with that.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:25 PM
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17. Hi niyad
My family is from Alamogordo. :hi:

I heard there was a bad storm a week ago, blackout, flooding. Everything OK?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:36 PM
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25. Hi there--what part of alamo are you from? I haven't been there in a
number of years, used to have family and friends there. currently in the heart of fundieville--dobson and haggard foul my air now--reminds me--kkkarl is going to be in aspen tomorrow--I know my headache is going to be bad.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:41 PM
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29. Near the 'Indian school'
Also, my family have been ranchers nearby for over 150 years, and my granfather work at Los Alamos. One uncle still lives there. :)


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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:19 PM
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10. whereas all over calif and nevada i have never considered using bottle
until moving to the panhandle of texas, i assumed the water was about the same. shocked i was tasting this crap
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:02 PM
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2. Well, tap water SHOULD be drinkable.
It's a disgrace that municipalities are providing people with crappy water so they have to depend on corporations to provide them with a basic necessity: clean water.

(Some people live in the country and have bad well-water -- I'm not talking about that. Not much you can do, in that situation...)
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:11 PM
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7. yes, it is a disgrace, and only going to get worse as basic resources
are sold to private interests.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:20 PM
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12. And buying bottled water only adds to that problem
Mega-corporations are raiding the water supplies of many municipalities to sell bottled water to the masses who have been brainwashed through ads that they need bottled water. In the meantime, water supplies become ever more scarce in some areas because it is being sold rather than being used locally for farming and other uses.

So when you buy bottled water, keep in mind you are only enriching giant corporations like Coca Cola.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:27 PM
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18. are you suggesting i drink this shit?
are you drinking shit?

i have a purifier and still takes like crap. cant drink it literally. so i stop drinking water. body becomes dehydrated. i know that isnt easy. but cant hardly get myself to drink it.

what do you suggest?

i want to know
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:18 PM
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9. The water in Salina, Kansas STINKS... literally
Edited on Sat Jul-08-06 07:25 PM by SoCalDem
We never had bottled water back then, but we always boiled the drinking water to get rid of the awful smell.. It came from these rivers.. Each one muddier than the previous




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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:20 PM
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11. i go to get my water adn every person i say.... can you BELIEVE
we have to BUY drinking water. did you EVER think it would come to this. personally i am outraged, offended. i feel we should be able to drink out of the hose. how we were raised
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:03 PM
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3. Is this "calling out" or saying "no 1 answer is right for everyone"?
it seems a combination and I'd like to check what this is for before replying more. Thanks.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:22 PM
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13. maybe we should be a little more tolerant of fellow man
and not so quickly jump on alls ass if we dont walk life the way another does. maybe there is a reason. maybe we can consider things a bit, and discuss before calling people out and reprimanding them telling what they are doing wrong and how they should do it
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:28 PM
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20. Yes, I agree with you. Some have a tendency to closemindedness
NOT calling on any particular person, but there are people who think that their way is the only way, that everyone should do as they say. Beyond the basic idea of try to not hurt people or things, as best as you can, there is a whole lot of variation that works. More discussion and less blame. More openmindedness and less attacking.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:36 PM
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26. i read a koontz book today. dark rivers of the heart.
Edited on Sat Jul-08-06 07:37 PM by seabeyond
the story was on this attitude and the damage it does in our country, welcoming fascism. a totally fiction book that is so approrpiate today. shruggin.

then come onto that thread, lol lol and thinking geez of all things....
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:05 PM
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4. 5+ years at DU have taught me that no matter what position you
Edited on Sat Jul-08-06 07:05 PM by SoCalDem
take on just about anything, there will always be someone or some faction who will roundly take you to task..

Don't take it personally :hug:

Regarding the water bottles...Why not just buy the big refrigerator containers, and refil the smaller bottles when the kids need to take one with:)..They can pop the empty with lid into the ever-present backpacks that children come with these days:)

We refill ours and even use them in coolers instead of ice..I freeze them and lay them on the bottom of the cooler, and when they melt, we have cold water :)
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:08 PM
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6. That's the best suggestion I've heard on the subject so far.
:thumbsup:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:24 PM
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14. we used old gatorade bottles for kids individual drinking water
and gallon jugs saved. using over and over until they cant be used anymore. been told that is poisoning us too

i know, you are right. i am not taking personally. but i am going to start speaking out to the intolerance we have today. we jsut cannot walk all the laws being implemented anymore. no one can be so good. and more and more laws and rules are being dictated. just enough
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:12 PM
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8. Did tap water USED to be more drinkable in places
where it is now foul?

I have been fortunate enough to live in places where the tap is clear and odor free. I suspect that if I lived where there is a sulfurous scent or flavor, or a noticable color I would drink bottled as much as I could afford it.

Has anyone's water quality deteriorated where you live?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:25 PM
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16. i lived in az, calif and nevada most my life, never had issue with tap
move to panhandle of texas and it is just nasty. i understand it has always been nasty. it has since my 15 years of being here.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 08:16 PM
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36. in Sacramento, the water was great. all up and down the Valley
the Bay Area not as much but still drinkable. here in Phoenix we used bottled, it Carlsbad we'll have RO

seems I just keep moving to nastier water with every move :blush:
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:24 PM
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15. Well, I guess filtered tap water is alright
Personally I have trouble drinking US tab water, because it just has that unbearable chlorine taste. It's even in ice cubes and some soft drinks at restaurants.
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conflictgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:27 PM
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19. It all goes back to the snob argument, if you ask me.
What I would really like is if we could all respect each other's choices, and work to make sure that the standard, default options available to all were acceptable quality.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:34 PM
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21. you are right on. and often are.
i dont let family drink this crap. a lot of kids are drinking it for different reasons. i would much rather do something about the quality of water for all then just taking care of mine
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:34 PM
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22. I only drink tap water--mine is excellent.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:35 PM
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23. Brita filters help. Just refrigerating water gets rid of the Cl taste.
I'm worried about the future. They built a suburban sprawl development, where one house occupies two acres, and they all have septic tanks. They're thinking that this, one day, will contaminate the ground water that they and I drink. Someone should have insisted this development be put on the city sewer system but we've got to protect the developers' profits or our national economy will fail.

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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:35 PM
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24. I missed those two thereads. I drink bottled water exclusively.
haven't had tap water in at least 5 yrs. I held a glass of it up to the sunllight once, and that was it.

Was buying gallon jugs for the house from the grocery store, but now get them delivered. They're sanitized and refilled. Crisp, clean, clear and refreshing.

I really don't care who approves.

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:37 PM
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27. To be fair
Some of us raised that discussion within the threads, and even some of the critics agreed they were complaining about people who gained no benefit from bottled water. But I didn't like the tone of the discussions. I'd have enjoyed a thread with a title that raised the issue in a nice way ("Is bottled water wasteful?" for instance) rather than the thread titles calling people stupid for drinking bottled water. But this is DU, manners are called PC and it's not PC these days to be PC. Wearing the thick skin is, sadly, recommended.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:43 PM
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30. i dont take it personally,but f* that sh*t if i am going to take it either
lol lol. yes, i agree, a discussion good. calling people dumb, tis dumb, lol. but i really am not going to be too patient with those that decide they will tell all how they are suppose to live and choice they are to make. i think i will go to battle each and everytime. someone has got to. with both sides and the govt, school system, church and cops all taking away personal responsibility and replacing with dictating behavior.... i am not going to submissively submit.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:50 PM
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32. Amen
I someone swings at you, you're entitled to swing back. :) I just thought there was some good discussion in the threads, once past the name calling and sweeping generalizations.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:54 PM
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33. you are cute, lol
good, i am glad there waS GOOD discussion. i would like to drink tap. nothing against tap. i am a cheap son of a gun..... lol lol and i am already paying for tap. i believe.... i BELIEVE... we should be able to turn on a hose when we are thirsty... just me.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:38 PM
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28. I drink filtered tap water -- or bottle water because our well water
is undrinkable.

Some places I can fill glass jugs with water and put in the 'frig to chill.

It really depends on where you live -- and if the water is so foul tasting that no one drinks enough to stay healthy -- then go for an alternative.

This is just like the idiots who think that making Sudafeds should me made illegal for all -- which means that individual who need to use Sudafed type medications to BREATHE are made to feel guilty.

WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS -- and faced with a problem we must solve the problem in the context of where we live and the resources available.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:47 PM
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31. thank you delusional i couldnt agree with you more. just like.....n/t
Edited on Sat Jul-08-06 07:48 PM by seabeyond
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 08:00 PM
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34. the water in my little town comes from wells
some 1800 ft deep and by the time they process it the water is completely save for my 100 gallon fish tank. the problem is that has absolutely no taste. if you get it really cold it`s drinkable otherwise it`s really like drinking nothing. water in plastic bottles is really a stupid idea...unless the price of fiji water is "dirt" cheap....
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 08:14 PM
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35. Don't let being "chewed out"
get to you. :) I guess it all depends on where you live when it comes to water quality. Personally, I always buy bottled. My child has a compromised immune system and I was told by his Immunologist to buy bottled for him. Nothing like Lake Erie water, smells like algae and Lord only knows what's in it.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 08:18 PM
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37. Locking.
Please don't start a new thread to continue a discussion in an open thread. Thanks.
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