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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:04 PM
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Is this a possible new tack on AAR by the hosts?
I heard Kennedy on RoF say many Republican voters are misinformed, would be Dems if they voted their values and knew what was going on; almost the same message by Laura Flanders. One GOP voter called in offended that she was saying they are ill-informed. But he could only cite information that was error or lie from Bushco.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:27 PM
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1. AAR is starting to tell the hosts what they ought to say.
And trying to control the language they use. Some don't much like this.
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:31 PM
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3. I. find it so damn hard to get AAR to play on my PC.....AND
the Randi Rhodes show at 6pm on local talk radio is gone....WHJJ Providence....they put savidge on instead..... What the hell is that all about.
Where has AAR gone....why aren't they in the Hartford Ct market?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:49 PM
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9. Well, feel free to get the archives and podcasts from my website.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:50 PM
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11. Try playing the stream of "Air America Minnesota."
Click "Listen Online" on the left:
http://www.950airamerica.com/
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:43 PM
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29. Hartford....isn't that Joementum territory????
hmmm...wonder what happened....???
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:31 PM
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4. Do they tell Thom Hartmann? His argument last week to change
the framing from "illegal immigrants" to "illegal employers" was very compelling. I have started using it.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:49 PM
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10. No, because they only syndicate him.
He isn't on the network proper.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:35 PM
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5. Is that why Malloy is refraining from cussing?
I love his uninhibited, unrestrained rants!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:41 PM
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6. The FCC has increased the fines for "obscenity" by ten times.
Before, he might have to sell his car to pay a fine. Now he would have to sell his house.

Of course THEY are the ones who define what "obscenity" is.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:43 PM
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7. Fuck those shit head bastards!
Edited on Sat Jul-08-06 07:43 PM by Swamp Rat
:D I'll say it FOR Mike. :D

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:49 PM
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8. The FCC uses the term "indecency" for saying "shit" etc.
on broadcast radio and broadcast TV.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 10:05 PM
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31. Guess they'll never replay that episode of "South Park" then :(
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:14 PM
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44. Ah, so that's why Malloy is 'watching his words' these days.
I knew the AAR head honchos must have been involved in his decision to curb his language. Damn. That sucks! It's Satellite radio! WTF? I pay to hear Malloy say whatever the hell he wants to say. What's wrong with AAR?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:29 PM
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2. If they tell the truth, there will necessarily be some
similarity of message.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:55 PM
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12. If anyone at AAR is smarter than Rachel Sam or Thom they should be on air
And if anyone at AAR has the balls to tell Mike Malloy or Randi Rhodes what to say on air, they damn well better guard them closely while they're doing it. :smoke:
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:29 PM
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21. we need these people to tell it like it is .
You may think some on AAR are a bit over the top but look at the right wing shows or that screwed up Fox show . AAR people fight lies with fire and truth .
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 08:28 PM
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13. AAR Lost me when
They added Springer.

No explanation necessary.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:37 PM
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22. Haven't lost me except
from 9-noon EDT. Springer is awful and does not belong on AAR. They have to find a way to juggle the schedule, drop Springer and get Thom Hartmann on as a regular. It might mean moving someone else to the 9-noon slot to get Thom on live from Portland.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 08:00 PM
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24. I would get my XM back if Hartmann replaces Springer
Heck...if anyone would replace that idiot I would probably re-subscribe.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:05 PM
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40. You're kidding
You dropped XM because of Jerry Springer? I don't believe you. All you had to do was listen to another station for 3 hrs or just turn it off. With 200+ stations you could have found something else.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:31 AM
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45. I got XM for AAR
As a salesman I drive and listen whenever Springer seemed to be on. I also bought an ipod that takes care of my music needs to be fair. With a transmitter I have access to a rather large CD collection.

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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 08:07 PM
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25. **Should listen to Rachel Maddow, it is one of, if not the best **
show that they have on daily. She is quite smart and a good rational thinker and Kent Jones is funny as hell!
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:06 PM
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41. She's terrific!
They need her in a better time slot, too. Smart as a whip.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 11:34 PM
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34. Listening to Springer is like having...........
a non-surgical lobotomy. And I'm still pissed that they dropped Morning Sedition, and this week is the last week for Marc Maron's L.A. show.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:02 AM
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36. I understand where you are coming from.
Our local replaced him w/ "Will and Willie" Willie Brown and Will Durst - MUCH better.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:04 AM
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37. Wow
You were never a fan if one bad host could do that.

Never.

You are bullshitting us.

Stop it.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:33 AM
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46. No I'm not..
See post 45
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 09:07 PM
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14. I heard Kennedy make that comment on NPR at least a
year ago. If AAR is trying to get them all on the same talking page they are doing a darn poor job.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 02:41 PM
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15. Thanks. That says alot right there.
I found all of these posts informative. I didn't know what was behind Malloy's restraint or this not-so-new line. The last thing I want is a script from AAR to be handed down to the hosts.

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 04:16 PM
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16. I have wtf moments whenever I listen to AAR and hear Franken or Schultz.
They are both DINOS in my book. Ugh! :puke:
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:39 PM
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23. Schultz no longer on AAR
I will qualify that. Ed is not on AAR on XM.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 08:42 PM
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26. Hmm, I just heard him the other day...? nt
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:09 PM
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43. 165
Yes, on 165 the 'Talk Radio' station.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:05 AM
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38. He never was.
Was always syndicated.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:08 PM
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42. But still on AAR
Syndicated or not he was broadcast on AAR on XM and several months ago XM moved him to 165 Talk Radio in the afternoons.
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:31 PM
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27. Agreed!
In my market (SF Bay Area) we get a dumb-assed local morning show, Will and Willie (Will Durst and Willie Brown, former SF Mayor, a real machine-boss Dem), followed by Al Franken, with his inane DINO remarks and canned laugh tracks, and then Jones Radio Network brings us Ed Shultz. I think "Big Eddie" is a blowhard and a vichy-Dem. What keeps me tuned in is Randi Rhodes, Sam Seder and Mike Malloy. I like when Lee Marvin subs for any of them, too. On the weekends, we get infomercials, usually dealing with real estate and home ownership. You'd think the "liberal" Bay Area could do better.

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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:40 PM
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28. You mean Jay Marvin?
Lee Marvin was an actor that played in a lot of WWII movies. Unless I don't know and there's another Lee marvin out there. Jay Marvin is out of Boulder Co. Used to have a show in Chicago.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 11:26 PM
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33. I also archive Jay Marvin's daily show.
Jay is a friend of mine. :-)
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:56 AM
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35. Sorry, meant Jay
And I'm glad to know he's a friend of Ben Burch's, too!
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 04:26 PM
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17. They're a bunch of ignorant idiots
If people really voted for their interests, and if elections were legit, democrats would win every time.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 04:31 PM
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18. Will calling people ignorant idiots will really help reach them?
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 04:32 PM by cryingshame
and for those who don't think it's worth any effort to get through to others who are in the dark...

What is your suggestion on what to do with these people? Exterminate them?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 04:36 PM
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19. Don't give me any ideas
There are just some people that can't be reached. Believe me, I've tried, especially before the 2004 election. Some people might get it, but many others refuse to allow logic from entering their minds.

Those are the ignorant idiots. And I will continue calling them that until they finally wake up.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 04:46 PM
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20. I agree.
There are those who realize they aren't up to date on information and are willing to listen to you and there are those who are like children who want to believe the moon is made of green cheese, and will never change their minds no matter how many facts and sources you give them. They prefer the fairy tale to the reality and you can't convince them.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:58 PM
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30. Make that two.
When I have friends that blindly send off racist, or misogynist e-mails that are obviously written by some factory funded by the GOP, get pissed at me for calling these things lies, and all of them vote Dem and think Bush is a liar, imagine what a Bush-Moonie thinks.

Most people just won't listen. I know people on the left who visit Drudge every day. Some talk for days about Paris Hilton or J-Lo, but when cornered on a real issue, they spout off the old "Welfare queens, driving Cadillacs, sponging off of our taxes." Never about Corporate troughs, outrageous military industrial complex spending, or giveaways for the rich.

Catapulting propaganda is effective. I'm in a constant battle to debunk the lies, and when one is done, 3 more have replaced it, and by the time I debunk those, the first one is back and believed again. We are outgunned. Nobody sends left wing spam. I got one that's true Today, about the NAFTA superhighway and Kansas City depot. It was from Jerome Corsi and World Nut Daily. Nobody truly concerned with this highway, and what it means for unions, would quote THAT site or THAT lying freeper.

I'm not that special. I'm no more insightful than anybody else. It doesn't take my whole day to keep up with this stuff. All it takes is a healthy amount of skepticism... something most people are afraid to do, lest they be called un-patriotic. It's a shame, but there is a sizable population out there who are helpless cult members.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 10:11 PM
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32. RiM left off "bigoted"....
... Hence, the answer to your question is "no" - they don't CARE about how ignorant they are, so long as their bigotted desires are satisfied.

They've shown that they arer willing to sacrifice EVERYTHING just so that women will be 2nd class citizens, gay folks don't get equal rights, black folks lose theirs, mexicans never get 'em, and muslims lose their rights and their lives.

The support of bigotry is by far the #1 most important thing to the typical republican voter, imo.

So yah - calling them "ignorant idiots" will not be helpful in the least. But not because they'll react defensively, or something like that. It's just that they don't care how stupid they are. All they have are their prejudices.
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:08 AM
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39. Fear.
It's all about fear-mongering. And the right-wing does a better job of it than we do. All that bigotry you mentioned is because if women aren't treated as second-class citizens, gay folks get equal rights, Black folks have equal rights, Mexicans have rights, and Muslims have rights, then those who perceive themselves at the head of the line might just lose their place. It's all about one-up, one-down. No such thing as equals, or equal personal power, or empowerment of any kind. And the head-of-the-line stuff is a myth, too.
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