Hillary Did Awesome Today Too! GO DEMS!!!!!!!!!!!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

I don't believe I haven't seen a thread on this in GD today. Hillary totally slammed bushco today and ENRAGED the right!

I'm damn proud of my dems today.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--kingday-politics0116jan16,0,5518982.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

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Clinton slams Bush at King event, says Congress like `plantation'

By DEEPTI HAJELA
Associated Press Writer

January 16, 2006, 6:12 PM EST


NEW YORK -- Sounding a little like a preacher, a fired-up Sen. Hillary Clinton lambasted the Bush administration and the Republican-controlled Congress during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day event, predicting the presidency "will go down in history as one of the worst" and saying the House of Representatives is run like a "plantation" where dissenting voices are squelched.

"When you look at the way the House of Representatives has been run, it has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about," Clinton, D-N.Y., told the crowd at the Canaan Baptist Church of Christ in Harlem. "It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard."

Speaking to a group of Hurricane Katrina evacuees in the audience, Clinton offered an apology "on behalf of a government that left you behind, that turned its back on you." Her remarks were met with thunderous applause.

"We have a culture of corruption, we have cronyism, we have incompetence," she said. "I predict to you that this administration will go down in history as one of the worst that has ever governed our country."

more at link

[linazelle]

1. Yayyy Hillary. That's my girl. nt

[wndycty]

2. Kudos!

Of course the problem is a lot of DU haters will bash her for being a day late and a dollar short. I'm standing and applauding for Hillary.

[PBass]

4. It's never too late to be a hero

Hillary could still do something really great for America... one can hope...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. Criticizing This Speech Would Be Putting Selfish Emotion Ahead Of Common

sense in my opinion. Every appearance is a new chance to make a difference. I think she spoke brilliantly from what I read and within its own context should be praised.

Regardless of past failures of any given dem, they should always be rewarded with applause, approval and keep it ups when they do something appropriate.

[journalist3072]

3. I am proud of the Democrats today. Very much so. BUT...

Let's see if they can back up their words today with action. If the Democrats are blessed enough to take control of Congress in January of next year, that means they will have the committee chairmanships. They will have subpoena power, etc.

And so I want to know will they get the investigations and impeachment inquiry going.

[ReadTomPaine]

7. Amen! n/t

[Inland]

5. To be heard in the House? They don't even get to read the bills

before the vote at midnight.

It's never been pretty in the House. Somebody once said that the job of the minority in the House is to form a quorum and get a paycheck. But it's never been this bad, because the house is simply another arm of the president.

[Horse with no Name]

6. What about the Senate????

"When you look at the way the House of Representatives has been run, it has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about," Clinton, D-N.Y., told the crowd at the Canaan Baptist Church of Christ in Harlem. "It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard."



All in all, she did good. We need to hear more of this.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

8. I Think She Focused On The Lack Of Rights in The House Because

minority status in the House yields literally ZERO power whatsoever, and the arm twisting and corrupt tactics have been far more prevalent there this year. Though the Senate is disgraceful in its own right, at least there is some ability to have a voice, as little as it is. Wouldn't have done any harm though to include the Senate in the statement anyway though :)

But overall, the House has been far more prevalent this year in squashing dissent and any rational voice whatsoever for the most part. I think it is far easier to make the plantation case for the house than the Senate, so that's why she called it out. I'm actually really proud of her, I thought her remarks were great, and hearing on my local news that she infuriated the right is allllllll I need to know :)

[rodeodance]

9. the analogy--plantation--is very appropriate for today.

[rodeodance]

10. yes, there was a thread earlier on DU

I don't believe I haven't seen a thread on this in GD today. Hillary totally slammed bushco today and ENRAGED the right!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

12. Self-delete, you put it below.

[rodeodance]

13. Here is the ealier LBN DU thread on Hil. clinton slaming bush.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2045342

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

16. Yeah, In LBN. I Couldn't Believe It Wasn't In GD At All!

I think we were so elated and focused on Gore today (appropriately so!) that we didn't even realize Hillary did good too. (sure, a few probably knew, or others read LBN, but things like this are ALWAYS in GD at some point. I'm quite amazed it didn't make it till now)

[Sparkly]

14. Sounds great!

Thanks for posting this. :hi:

[oneold1-4u]

15. A hollow voice

Way too late in the game and without any substance. She is a very shallow woman, married to an even shallower man! The name (clinton) should disappear from US political arena very soon or the nation is in for even worse dirt than it is in today!

[Horse with no Name]

17. I'm not a Hillary fan or supportive of the DLC

But you have to give credit where credit is due.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

18. Yeah yeah blazzay blah. It was actually an amazing statement,

great framing, and great timing. It is worthy of much applause and approval and I hope to hear more of this from her!

[Scout1071]

20. I am not a Hillary backer and I don't even believe this speech to be

all that genuine, BUT.....I disagree with you on Clinton(s) disappearing.

Having said that, I find the speech to be less than impressive. Al Gore is calling it what it is...a crime. The highest crimes and misdemeanors. The ones that threaten our very way of life.

[oasis]

21. So the Clintons are worse than Bush? Keep the info coming.

:eyes:

[stlsaxman]

19. This is the first I heard about Sen. Clinton's speech-

sounds great! is there video or mp3 available?

I've seen Al Gores speech 3 times already and in the back of my mind i kept thinking- "To hell with Hillary- THIS is my candidate for 2008..." but I'd LOVE to see/hear HER speech...

as you say- GO DEMS!!!

[seabeyond]

22. i am soooo glad you shared hillary's words. i dont hear

enough of what she thinks so i have a few that she doesnt feel strongly about this stuff, and probably dont support her as much as i should. i dont like not appreciating and valuing hte people serving us, especially when they deserve it. very strong indeed. and again i would like to reiterate how much i appreciate seeing her words. not that we will hear it on msm..... but at least i know she said them now

[shanti]

23. many blacks call federal offices (of any sort)

"the plantation". hillary didn't just make this up herself :eyes:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

26. I'm sorry, did she claim somewhere she invented the analogy?

This was an incredible statement by her today. Nothing that the doomsdayers and never-satisfied-with-anything Hillary bashers can say will take away its value.

I'm damn proud of her today, prouder of Al, and proud of my dems as a whole.

Keep It Up DEMS! We're with you!

:yourock:

[oasis]

33. Little Richard thought of it first.

:eyes:

[shanti]

36. ok...

:eyes: :hi:

[occuserpens]

24. Ungrateful Hillary

2006-01-16 Ungrateful Hillary

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

28. Not Sure I Underdstand The Logic Of Your Post.

[barb162]

45. Ungrateful for what?

[occuserpens]

48. GOP allows HRC to make meaningless noises

but she does not seem to appreciate this.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

52. Gee, I thought we were gonna get some clarity in your reply LOL

Still have no idea what you are inferring, but then I'm all ambiened up right now so what do I know.

[barb162]

54. From what I have seen of her speech in this article

I don't understand what "meaningless noises" you are referencing. She seemed right on and played well to her audience. She wasn't doing a State of the Union address, but an MLK day speech

"Speaking to a group of Hurricane Katrina evacuees in the audience, Clinton offered an apology "on behalf of a government that left you behind, that turned its back on you." Her remarks were met with thunderous applause.

"We have a culture of corruption, we have cronyism, we have incompetence," she said. "I predict to you that this administration will go down in history as one of the worst that has ever governed our country."

[ruggerson]

25. But I thought Hillary was Satan

Or at least that's what I'm told here every day.

[occuserpens]

27. No, she is no Satan, just a scandal celeb

with nothing except for vanity in here little brain

[barb162]

47. Little brain? Her academic record shows a very powerful brain

[occuserpens]

49. Quite enough

to produce this, but hardly for anything else.

[barb162]

51. Top of her class at Yale Law School, US Senator on first try, etc

She's quite a smart woman

[occuserpens]

57. Smart enough to kill off the dems

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

31. Don't Believe Everything You Hear From The Naysayers And Bitters On DU LOL

I want to see more from her and feel many have absolute reason to have had disgust with some of her past statements and inactions, but calling her satan is just overly bitter and dramatic in my opinion.

From what I've read on this speech so far, it appears she did incredible today.

Al Gore still blew this speech away though in my opinion, but that doesn't mean this one doesn't deserve credit too right? :)

[barb162]

46. No,

she's not Satan. She's a liberal, she went for national health care years ago, she's for women's rights, keeping social programs intact like Social Security, etc.

[knight_of_the_star]

29. Good good

Now back up your words with actions Hilary or what you said will be nothing more than pretty symbols on paper and a nice waste of air.

[FreedomAngel82]

30. Wow

I'm surprised at the democrats, even Hillary, all coming out lately with fire in their bellys. It's not about Iraq but it is about other important matters at hand.

[GoreDean2008]

32. Hillary Is Just Copycatting President Gore

She just realized that her five years of Bush-liting adversely affected her political career. She can bash Bush all she wants. America will re-elect President Gore in 2008 and restore our democracy and the legitimacy of America's presidency.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. Ya Know, More Than One Dem Can Shine At Once.

One's greatness doesn't have to impede anothers moment of greatness, even if the former was far more effective or on point than the latter.

Gore's speech absolutely rocked today, best I may have heard in my lifetime. But that doesn't mean Hillary can't have her kudos too.

[GoreDean2008]

39. Yeah, More Than One Dem Can Shine at Once But

Hillary cannot shine because of her past five years of Bush-liting. If Hillary really wants to shine, she has to apologize to the nation for abdicating her Senatorial duty by Bush-liting and endorse Al Gore for President in 2008.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

40. Ahh delete. Not worth additional circular responses.

[barb162]

41. You're right! And good for her!

[madmunchie]

50. I hope that Gore will be re-elected

Hillary just hasn't been as vocal as she could have been years ago. Every so often she comes out of the woodwork and slams something about Bush, I just find it oddly conincidental that she made this kind of speech the same day that Gore made his speech.

Now with MSM, who do you think that they would be more apt to cover (if they cover either one of them at all), Clinton of course. Just what Clinton was aiming for.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

53. They Covered Gore Far More Today. And Sure, It was just alllll conspiracy

:eyes:

[seabeyond]

34. i am AMAZED at ALL you dem BASHERs

i hear time and again, dems never speak up (which isnt even close to being a truth) dems are spineless (i have seen more spine this last year, i think they should get pats on back)

and now hear we have dems speaking up and yawl attack. i even heard some attack dean when he point blank got in wolfies face

come on, surely yawl jest, this really isnt a dem board is it. yawl are just playing one huge joke on me

just to those on this particular thread that have to be consistant in their bash of a dem, regardless..... if they do good

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

37. Ahhhh, Just Ignore Them, They Know Not What They Do LOL

(ok ok, i'm a hypocrite. I should be ignorin em too yet keep fuckin hittin reply like a jackass LOL)

[seabeyond]

38. lol lol. i havent said that in a very long time

that use to be what i said, talking to the religious and repugs in this area about the 2004 elections. you know not what you do. thank you. but has been really bad the last handful of days. blame dems for everything, crush them at every turn. i have stopped replying on actual topics and spent my time, reminding folks, dems arent such a bad lot. alito did it.

[barb162]

44. good points and thanks

"dems arent such a bad lo" and a hell of a lot better than the pugsters.

[barb162]

42. I agree. She makes a very good speech espousing liberal

principles, trashing the pugs in the House and some people still bash her. It's amazing

[Adelante]

43. Good for Hillary

Well done.

[ScreamingMeemie]

55. Thank you Senator, for REPRESENTING us.

:applause:

[oasis]

56. Hill, Al Gore, Kerry, Conyers and Clark make me proud to be a Democrat.

[seabeyond]

58. here here

oh wait, lol i am not a democrat, just a supporter, but yea to all you name, and many more. now ... off to bed.

[stevietheman]

59. After a multitude of strikeouts, Hillary hits a home run.

Now, all she needs to do is renounce the unjustified Iraq war, then she'll be on track to be my gurl.

[Imagevision]

60. OK Hillary, -- now lets build some momentum girl...!