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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:03 AM
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Ex-soldier Accused In Murders, Rape Was Baptized at Ft. Benning
http://www.wtvm.com/Global/story.asp?S=5128574&nav=8fap

ATLANTA An ex-soldier charged with raping an Iraqi girl and killing her family was baptized at Fort Benning before he deployed to Iraq.

A minister says Steven Green, who grew up in Midland, Texas, was one of hundreds of soldiers stationed at Fort Benning who faithfully attended Church of Christ services. snip

Based on interviews and records, the U-S military now believes the young Iraqi Green is accused of raping and killing was between the ages of 14 and 20.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:06 AM
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1. So what? n/t
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:23 AM
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6. A little bit about the Church of Christ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Christ

Church of Christ

<snip>Racial integration within worship

The Church of Christ's development against the post-Civil War racial backdrop of the American south produced debates on whether African-americans should be "permitted" to worship in "white" congregations. Following the war, some households among the Church of Christ were racially integrated, with white parents raising black children and bringing them to services in predominantly white congregations. This practice alarmed and infuriated critics who railed against it using the racist rhetoric of the period. A common charge was that racial inclusiveness in the context of a single congregation invited division by offended whites and was therefore Biblically forbidden as a divisive practice. The most extreme argued that black people were "beasts" and "without souls," and that black people had a greater tendency to commit rape than people of other races.

David Lipscomb, while maintaining his generation's attitudes on the social inequality of blacks and whites, militated against the racist position in the pages of the Gospel Advocate in a heated exchange published in 1907. Lipscomb pointed out that racially integrated congregations had been a fact of life for many congregations in the Church of Christ for years, that he himself had grown up with black children, and pointed to both New Testament example and the "principle of silence" in denying that any basis for racial segregation existed:

There can be no doubt as to religious duties and rights. "There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female, for ye are all one man in Christ Jesus. And if ye are Christ's, then ye are Abraham's seed, heirs according to promise." (Gal. 3:28.) This means the Christians of every different nation, tribe, country, of every social or political position, have equal privileges and rights in the service of God. No one as a Christian or in the service of God has the right to say to another, "Thou shalt not," because he is of a different family, race, social, or political station. While these distinctions exist here, God favors or condemns none on account of them. Jesus Christ personates himself in the least and most despised of his disciples; and as we treat them, we treat him. "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." (Matt. 25:40.) To object to any child of God participating in the service on account of his race, social or civil state, his color or race, is to object to Jesus Christ and to cast him from our association. It is a fearful thing to do. I have never attended a church that negroes did not attend.....

The exchange did not write the final chapter on race attitudes in the Churches of Christ. Mirroring much of the surrounding culture of the American south, while some leaders in the Church of Christ supported the concepts of civil rights and attempted to operate schools for black members of the church, others either continued in an overtly racist attitude or, while acknowledging the validity of civil-rights-movement ideals of racial equality, either advocated an approach of gradualism or insisted that the church not involve itself with secular "organized agitation for reform.".

According to Richard T. Hughes' Reviving the Ancient Faith: The Story of Churches of Christ in America, white Church of Christ leaders connected civil rights "riots" to Communism. James Bales, a former Harding College (now University) professor, argued that Martin Luther King supported Communism:

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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 12:35 PM
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12. Thanks for the fascinating tidbit of history
but what does that have to do with your original post? Or that the guy was Baptized
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:07 AM
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2. That "Midland Texas" sure produces some winners doesn't it?
:shrug: Real Heartland Values....
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:16 AM
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4. Dubya isn't from Midland
n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:12 AM
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:23 AM
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5. Governments always use the words of Christ to justify all kinds of evil.
Not saying that is what happened this time but pushing white man's Christian 'values' and killing people is what our military does best. And they do it well. And they have complete cooperation from all (not just the Vatican) leaders from every religion.

And the Muslims do it. And the Israelis do it. And since you could possibly compare some political ideologies to a religion, the communists (i.e. China), do it too.

If people truly followed the teachings of Christ, there would be no war. The same for the Buddha. And Gandhi. Whomever.

None of this corrupt behavior should be blamed on religion. Blame it on those who use religion and pervert for their own ends.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:24 AM
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7. Oh Jesus!
:puke:
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:31 AM
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8. Oh! I get it. This means what he did was ok.
what a pathetic way to cloud a horrendous crime.

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 09:52 AM
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9. Maybe he did it in the name of God? What next with these nuts
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 10:15 AM
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10. Why don't they know her age? She was 15, wasn't she? They can't even
determine THAT much?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 12:48 PM
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13. Yeah, perhaps that news dept should have checked Reuters
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Five U.S. soldiers were charged in a rape and multiple murder case that has outraged Iraqis, as documents obtained by Reuters on Sunday showed the rape victim was a minor aged just 14, and not over 20 as U.S. officials say.

~snip~

Her identity card and a copy of her death certificate, however, show she was just 14.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-07-09T161634Z_01_COL944937_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-RAPE.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsArt-R2-Today-3



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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 10:48 AM
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11. Ever notice how the most heinous people manage to find Jesus
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 10:51 AM by GumboYaYa
after they get caught? Ken Lay did the same schtick. I sure do wish he had this little conversion before he raped a child and murdered an innocent family.

"give unto Casear that which is Caesars..." and Caesar says throw his ass in porison forever regardless of whether he suddenly found Jesus.

<ON EDIT> I should have read the post more carfully and checked out the article first before I posted. I guess this shows us that claiming to be a Chistian don't make it so. What we do is far more impotant than what we say.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 12:50 PM
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14. Hah! Baptized into what? Devil-worship?
:eyes:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 12:57 PM
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15. The guy probably went to church to "get some action."
Just an evil, criminal idiot. :mad:
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