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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:23 PM
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Oh God! Heritage Foundation says: M L King Conservative!
It is time for conservatives to lay claim to the legacy of the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. King was no stalwart conservative, yet his core beliefs, such as the power and necessity of faith-based association and self-government based on absolute truth and moral law, are profoundly conservative. Modern liberalism rejects these ideas, while conservatives place them at the center of their philosophy. Despite decades of its appropriation by liberals, King’s message was fundamentally conservative.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/AmericanFoundingandHistory/wm961.cfm

What color is the sky in their world?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:25 PM
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1. Maybe somebody better tell Glen Beck
He didn't get the rightwing talking points memo, and was whining today about MLK.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:26 PM
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2. Spin,spin spin spin spin
I'm getting dizzy from their spin.

Trying to find ways to win the African American vote.

Lie to them some more, sure that will work, assholes!
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:26 PM
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3. So because he was religious then he has to be "conservative"?
It is not that cut and dry. :wtf: is "absolute truth and moral law"?

They will try to steal any icon and make it their own.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:06 PM
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32. Took the words right out of my mouth - wtf IS absolute truth and moral law
Sounds like something the Taliban would say.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:26 PM
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4. Well he did have affiars
so that would make him like so many current Republicans. But kidding aside, those people have serious nerve.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:26 PM
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5. Not surprising. They've been doing this for years now..
The conservatives use one line in Dr. King's speech to say that if he were alive today, he would have been AGAINST affirmative action, and he would be a Republican, yada yada.

Specifically, they use the line in his I Have a Dream speech where he talks about his children being judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. And they use that to say he would be anti-affirmative action.

I actually posted about this on my blog yesterday:

http://progressiveminds.bloghi.com/2006/01/15/how-the-republicans-misuse-dr-king-s-words.html
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:51 PM
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27. But we already know that conservatives hate the idea of
judging on the basis of content of one's character. . .

Maybe someone just needs to remind them that if some crazed "conservative" hadn't killed Dr. King back in 1968, he might be alive today to tell us what he thinks of affirmative action.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:26 PM
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35. And not only that..but what's more
It always amazes me how the Rethuglicans like to say how many African-Americans Idiot son has appointed to his Administration. It's almost like they think I and my fellow African-Americans should be bowing down to Bush, saying "thank you Master for appointing these African-Americans."

So THEY are judging people by the color of their skin.

What's more, they don't realize that you CANNOT simply appease us by just putting a Black face on something. What I care about, is what that African-American has done to lift up other African-Americans, once they reached positions of leadership.

And have they tried to make life better in Black America?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:27 PM
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6. The racists claiming the mantle of Dr. King. I have only one thing
to say...


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:27 PM
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7. Typical...
When you have no message, steal it from others (and these guys are so TOUGH on crime... pshaw!).
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:28 PM
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8. Just ignore quotes such as these
"A nation, that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death."
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:28 PM
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9. Wow...the word "parasites" springs to mind.
Clinging to the coattails of greatness hoping it will rub off on them.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:29 PM
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10. steal america, the flag, christianity, christmas and now mlk n/t
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 10:29 PM by seabeyond
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:29 PM
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11. Oh God
It is now known that if Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King junior weren't both killed Kennedy would have chosen MLK as his VP.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:29 PM
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12. They have to co-op anyone...
of integrity...as they have none of their own...no heart,no mind,and no soul...
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:29 PM
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13. If the last episode of "The Boondocks" is any indicator,
MLK would be despised and reviled by the wingnut world.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:30 PM
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14. Then why did conservatives kill him? n/t
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:32 PM
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15. They always co-op the ideas of the greatest liberals...
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 10:33 PM by marmar
Jesus, MLK, JFK...

What's Next? They'll call Howard Zinn's "Passionate Declarations" a conservative manifesto. :crazy:
These trough-feeders have no shame!
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:32 PM
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16. Yep, MLK must be a conservative, all right...
...after all, he hasn't had a new thought in thirty-eight years.

:spank:

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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:33 PM
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17. Heritage Foundation: We are just like Jesus Christ!
Except without all that being poor, turning the other cheek, being humble, healing the sick, forgiving others, tolerating strangers, loving your enemies, feeding the hungry, and chastising the rich and privileged stuff (oh, and we are whitet too!). Other than that, we are just like Jesus Christ!
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:34 PM
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18. When I was little we always used to hear stories about how the Russians
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 10:40 PM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
would have articles in Pravda for their people telling them that a Russian invented the automobile or the lightbulb or was the first to do this or that, even if the rest of the world had a different accepted version. Same thing. Sad. Dillusional.






edited for spelling
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:36 PM
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19. That was when Pravda was reliable and before it became...
...Fox News.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:42 PM
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23. Yep. Same thing.
Do these people have consciences? Do they put their pants on one leg at a time? Do they have reflections in a mirror? Do they feel responsible for their children's world?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:38 PM
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20. This will/can happen til the true King is celebrated...
The "King" celebrated today is hardly the King that was anti-war and demanded restructuring of our economic system so that charity would no longer be needed.

:grr:
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:39 PM
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21. Let them use their own damned icons
The Southern Baptist Convention opposed the Civil Rights Act, by the way, which says a lot about their beliefs in "absolute truth and moral law."
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:41 PM
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22. They are fooling themselves
rewriting history. It is our jobs to expose them for their lies.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:48 PM
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24. Shameless
Everyone knows he was a commie infiltrator sent to destroy our great society!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:10 PM
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33. If that is true (which it isn't)
than why did the conservative president spy on him? :eyes:
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:48 PM
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25. ROTFLMAO ! ! !
Oh yeah. . .those lily white descendants of the oppressors are sure brethren of Dr. King all right...why, you can just bet that all those wingnuts were marching and standing there mesmorized back in 1963. . .

And you just KNOW it was those religious "conservatives" who were marching through Selma, Alabama, trying desperately to protect the blacks from the noose-carrying libruls. It shows up in conservative rhetoric today - why, just remember how the wingnuts RUSHED to help the poor in New Orleans....

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:50 PM
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26. First Conrad Black writes the definitive work on FDR (nobody else
could afford to buy the library I guess..) then Caroline Kennedy has to ask Bush to stop using her dad's name.

Will they ever stop it with stealing our totems?

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:53 PM
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28. Air America Radio has a news show "State of Belief"
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 10:54 PM by Eric J in MN
from the Religious Left. It's on Sunday evenings for one hour.

http://www.airamericaradio.com/stateofbelief/

Liberals aren't necessarily against "faith-based association."
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:00 PM
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29. I wouldn't mind if Carolyn Garris had written that MLK
had virtues which all Americans should admire, conservative or liberal.

Instead, she wrote of the "appropriation" of MLK by liberals, which is garbage.

MLK wanted a guaranteed income, desegregation, US support for revolutionaries in Latin America...
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:03 PM
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30. To refute would require me to quote...
...what they quote (selectively) and I would rather say that the MLK I knew would puke before defending their points...
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:04 PM
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31. If alive today, MLK would be in GITMO and those fuckers KNOW IT!!!
HOW DARE THEY ATTEMPT TO LAY CLAIM ON DR. KING'S VISION!!! :grr:

HOW FUCKING DARE THEY USURP AND "ATTEMPT TO" EXPLOIT A REAL VISIONARY'S IMPACT UPON HUMAN LIFE! :grr:

Bottom line,...those so-called "heritage" heretics are just fucking nuts!!!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:20 PM
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34. Ummm ... have they read his writings towards the end of his life?
He wrote about economic justice and a strong safety net for the poor and provision of extensive government services.

And he was very anti-war (pro-peace).

Didn't sound to me like conservatism. Must have been reading different stuff.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:32 PM
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36. I am fixin to lose my dinner - moonie times pulls same trick as Heritage
They can literally tell their cult following to eat a dog turd and they would follow Spot around with a knife and fork the rest of the day... I am sure King would loooove Bush.

I guess this might should have been posted here. It's about Belafonte at Duke and the Moonie Times doing the same thing as Heritage. Belafonte was best buds with MLK since MLK was 24 but the moonie times knows King's heart like no other...

check it out here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x160141

hey, speaking of Heritage and Moon...

U.S News and World Report March 27, 1989
Rev. Moon's Rising Political Influence
His empire is spending big money trying to win favor with conservatives.

...the church(Unification) has established a network of affiliated organizations and connections in almost every conservative organization in Washington, including the Heritage Foundation, the largest of the conservative think tanks and an important source of government personnel during the Reagan administration. Although Heritage officials deny it, the foundation has dramatically changed its policy toward the Unification Church. In the early 80's the foundation, wary of the church's aims, prohibited staff or fellows from being associated with Unification Church organizations or taking money from the church or church-financed institutions.

As the Washington Times has become the voice of capital conservatives, the Heritage Foundation has become far more tolerant of church ties.
The foundation accepts the participation of Lichenstein and other senior fellows in church-funded enterprises and allows its staff members to go to church conferences.

The Unification Church's newfound influence has occasioned intense debate among conservatives. One group of worried young conservatives meets regularly in private to compare notes about the problem. But little of the debate has surfaced in public forums. "Most people are afraid to address the issue because they don't want to publicize the extent of the church's involvement," says Amy Moritz of the Conservative National Center for Public Policy Research.

Because almost all conservative organizations in Washington have some ties to the church, conservatives also fear repercussions if they expose the church's role.
That happened when one organization, the Capital Research Center, published a newsletter last November warning of the church's attempt to create a "centralized world theocracy." One of its board members, who was also on the board of the International Security Council, resigned in protest, and conservatives charging that the paper was creating discord on the right, besieged the center with angry calls. "We got a very, very strong reaction -- almost as if we were the enemy -- because we raised the issue," says CRC Chairman Willa Johnson, a former president of the Heritage Foundation.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:22 AM
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37. shameful.....n/t
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