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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:11 PM
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WITH THE MANN COULTER.....
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 05:31 PM by pepperbear
Anyone remember the whisper campaign against Ann Richards during her TX GOV. race against Booboo? Rove's army "ALLEGEDLY" started an "ANN IS GAY" rumour. Unfortunately, it was a lot more effective than the PAUL IS DEAD rumour as it helped to insure her defeat.

Ann Coulter is not a nice person. She knows this and revels in it. She makes money from hate. Our own hatred of her makes her more money and keeps her in the spotlight. She just a keeps on a-hatin' and a-gettin' paid. If I ever ran into Ann Coulter, the only thing I could say to her would be "Pleased to meet you. Shouldn't you be off somewhere laughing all the way to the bank?"

If she is a transsexual, our very own "schadenfreund" is as repulsive as she is AS IT IMPLIES THAT WE THINK THERE IS SOMETHNG WRONG WITH TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE. She is accused of being Arthur Coltrane because it makes her look like more of a freak NOT MORE LIKE ONE OF US....and as we know, there are many GLBT among us....and it's a little insulting.

If EVER there was a "pot calling the kettle black" scenario, this is it. We shouldn't use GLBT people or issues or all of the stereotypes as a weapon against conservatives if we don't want them to be used against liberals.

OH and there is the little thing about how it ISN'T TRUE! Um, Swiftboat anyone? Is this really all we have?

No...because we DO HAVE THE TRUTH! The truth about the real RW agenda. people are waking up to it.
Worry about James D, NOT THIS TWO BIT WANNA BE MISS THANG. No one else of substance takes her seriously, why should we? Focus folks, don't get distracted!


I am off my soapbox now.

Flame away...you know I'm right.

:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:


on edit: spelling
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:14 PM
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:14 PM
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2. Glad to be the first KnR on this. THANK YOU, PEPPERBEAR.
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 05:19 PM by Hekate
The only bearing the Coultergeist's sexuality or gender has on any topic at all is -- well, none that I can think of.

We are a lot more imaginative than Freepers, aren't we? Just insult her for the harm she does to the world. The GLBT citizens of DU and the US deserve better than to be dragged through the mud of a discussion about her.

Creepy, skeletal creature that she is.

Hekate

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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:16 PM
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3. Fuck that bony unhinged witch. n/t
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:19 PM
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4. Bravo!
Very well said. K&R
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:19 PM
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5. The new Ann cartoon......
For anyone who hasn't seen it.
http://www.current.tv/video/?id=7412360
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:20 PM
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6. Thank you for saying this.
I'm a gay man, and I despise this crap. Personally, I wish we would just ignore her. She thrives on our hate of her. She LOVES it. The worst thing for her would simply be ignored...to be relegated to the furthest fringes of public life.

I cringe whenever I see this "Mann Coulter" crap. Like you said, there are GLBT people here (like me) who are sickened when homosexuality or transgenderism is used as insult against people we don't like. This is exactly the same dynamic with the Chicago White Sox manager's insults to that reporter a few weeks ago.

You are absolutely right and I thank you for saying this.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:37 PM
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14. Agreed
The personal insults serve no purpose (other than someone venting, I suppose), and I suspect don't really afffect her too much. She like Rush create the swirl around themselves to create sales. It's about the bottom line and nothing more with them. The less time we spend on this person, I would think the better.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:42 PM
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19. I'm with you. She's just a second rate uneducated rabble rouser..........

Which is why she's the dream date of every knuckle
dragger on FR.

I'm as guilty as anyone giving her more attention
than she deserves.

We have to bear in mind that
every time her name is mentioned on this site her
name and her online hate mongering gets kicked to
the top of Google.

Notice I haven't used HER name nor will I respond
to on post about HER from now on.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:22 PM
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45. But don't you think it's more her hypocricy?
I mean - who cares if an out transexual is touting forgiveness, but it's quite another thing for a woman who may have once been a man to put down others for their sexual and/or gender differences when she/he, him/herself, may be a member of the same group.

It's the hypocricy, not the fact that (s)he may have once been of another gender.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:45 PM
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52. nice theory
but she's not a transexual.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 07:39 PM
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60. But that's what people are railing against.
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 07:40 PM by Clark2008
Many people here THINK she is and BELIEVE that because they THINK she is that she's being disingenuous. They're not railing against any sex-change operation, but the hypocrisy they believe exists.

Can't you understand that?

(P.S. My Mother's best friend when I was growing up was transgendered. Therefore, I simply don't think about it much. It's no great shakes to me. It's just people.)
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:04 AM
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71. Why "expose" her hypocrisy for railing against her transsexuality when...
She's not even transsexual? She hates transsexuals. And she ISN'T a transsexual. Why does this show her hypocrisy that WE accuse her of being something that she hates and ISN'T.

She's NOT a hypocrite. She's a FASCIST. If people like her were hypocrites, we'd be better off because then at least they wouldn't BELIEVE the tripe that they preach. But she is not a hypocrite, she BELIEVES in the hate she preaches. Just like she is not a transsexual and she would laugh over the murdered body of a transsexual any day of the week.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:21 PM
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7. Don't know about her gender but
she looks like a crack ho. :puke:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:23 PM
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8. Happy to provide Rec #5.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:26 PM
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9. Thankyou
On behalf of transgendered women everywhere :)
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Peanutcat Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:31 PM
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10. Well, actually--
IF Ann was transgendered, it'd prove she's a hypocrite, much like Mary Cheney is a hypocrite.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:35 PM
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13. No
It proves that people who use transgendered as an insult are hypocrites.

Mary Cheney is a hypocrite because she supports anti-gay policies and she is gay.

Ann Coulter isn't a transexual. period, nor am I even aware of any anti-trans statements she has ever made.
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Peanutcat Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:57 PM
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28. I see that great big IF flew right past your head--
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:59 PM
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31. Big deal
I hate mushrooms.

I have never admitted to being a mushroom.

If I am a mushroom -- I must be a hypocrite.
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Peanutcat Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:07 PM
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36. Good Lord--
Look, Ann is just getting what she reaps. If she wasn't such a nasty, vile, insulting bitch, people wouldn't be nasty, vile and insulting right back at her. Some people like Ann think "gay" and such are insults, so it's insulting to call her that.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:12 PM
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40. apparently
you feel "Transexual" is an insult as well.

you let me know that with this sentence.

"If she wasn't such a nasty, vile, insulting bitch, people wouldn't be nasty, vile and insulting right back at her."

Good Lord indeed.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:05 PM
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35. Why not accuse her of being black? Or hispanic? Or Arab?
She's also nowhere near anyone of those things either. When you "accuse" someone of something, you are saying that it's a bad thing to be.

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Peanutcat Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:08 PM
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37. BECAUSE
She's obviously NOT black or hispanic or arab. sheesh.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:38 AM
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67. She doesn't look hispanic? What do hispanic people look like?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:53 AM
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69. And what do trans people look like? How many do you know?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:26 PM
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47. Because it's obvious that she's not any of those.
However, with her Adam's apple, there's a good chance she might have been male.

Now, if she were just transgendered and not so hateful against anything that's not the stereotypical Arian male-if-you-were-born male, female-if-you-were-born-female crapola, then no one here would care.

It's not a dis of transgender/transexuals. It's a dis of hypocricy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:47 PM
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 07:37 PM
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59. That's not hypocrisy.
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 07:42 PM by Clark2008
I think it looks like an Adam's apple and I'm not alone. That's opinion based on a set of given facts (it bobs up and down. I've never seen a larynx do that).

It's not hypocrisy.

In any case, I think she's just a bitch, mostly. I don't really care what she is, was or might of been. I think she makes my gender look stupid, which pisses me off much more than whether she once had a twig and berries (my son's words for them before you get riled).
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 07:17 PM
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56. I see what you're saying now, read. (nt)
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:06 AM
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75. see now you're getting it ;)
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:00 PM
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32. Exactly.

There are pix I've seen posted here where Coulter is a young girl around age 12, and there is a college pic of her too.

There's so much to depise about her, why try to ridicule her with the transsexual label. Not cool.

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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:31 PM
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11. It's not about thinking anything is "wrong" with transgendered people
It's about Ann Coulter, whose true gender has long been in dispute, acting like something is wrong with anyone who is not a heterosexual, Republican, fundamentalist Christian.

The transgender accusation is a claim of hypocrisy directed at Coulter, not a slam against all transgendered people.
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Peanutcat Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:33 PM
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12. Well, crap--
I guess it's true that great minds think alike!:hug:
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:40 PM
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17. Note the simultaneous post time
We must be twins, separated at birth

:hug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:39 PM
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:45 PM
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21. I would not deem you less a woman for being transgendered
I would deem you less of a person if you lied about it, and publicly attacked anyone who did not fit into the cookie-cutter mold of the mainstream neocons.

I used the word "accusation" because Coulter has not admitted it, nor has it been proven.

But I don't feel like anything is wrong, by itself and without the hypocrisy, with being transgendered, and I apologize if I offended you.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:47 PM
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22. you haven't "admitted" to it either
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 05:47 PM by maddiejoan
is "non-admission" of being transgended an automatic signal of hypocracy?

She's not a transeexual!

look at her childhood pics. Sheeeesh

She's the one in the front

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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:52 PM
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24. She's cute. Too bad she grew up to be such a wicked person
I just absolutely hate Coulter, more so than any of the other FOX News and/or right-wing radio propagandists
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:53 PM
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25. Now THAT I can agree with.
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:57 PM
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27. Hannity used to be the worst, in my opinion, until...
...Coulter and Malkin came along. Oh, and that John Gibson from FOX is a real Nazi. I guess Hannity has dropped all the way to fourth place.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:03 PM
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33. and I've even met more transsexuals that look like --
Malkin(male to female) and Hannity(female to male)

just sayin'
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:55 PM
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26. Exactly, Maddie.
If Ann Coulter was really trans, then she would not be a "hypocrite", she'd be a sad person who projects the discrimination done to her onto others like herself. It would be a case of deep rooted self-hate and not "hypocrisy."

BUT SHE'S A FUCKING GENETIC FEMALE. Which means that her behavior is NOT from internalizing years of ridicule and injustice. It means that she is a socially privileged fascist monster.

She is not a hypocrite. She is a true fascist. There is nothing hypocritical about her.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:57 PM
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29. ding ding ding
we have a winner
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:39 PM
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16. Even some "straight, married" people
find the Mann business offensive. It really shouldn't have to get personal before we stand up for people. Isn't that what us liberals are about?

It is difficult to restrain myself from using unpleasant words about *, but no words are bad enough to describe the whole administration. And we do need someplace to blow off steam. So let's be cool about how we insult *Co and the rest of the Fascist pigs.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:41 PM
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18. This is fun stuff to talk about, but..
Here's Ann from her HS yearbook. I guess she could have a penis, but she looks like girl to me.



From http://adweek.blogs.com/adfreak/2006/06/ok_here_goes_.html
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:43 PM
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20. "IT IMPLIES THAT WE THINK THERE IS SOMETHNG WRONG"
No. It implies that we think her constituency think there is something wrong with it.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:51 PM
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23. I've met just as many "liberals" as "conservatives"
who think there is something wrong with transgendered people.

So let's not even go there.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 07:42 PM
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61. I don't.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:36 AM
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66. Well since Maddie Joan is trans and you're not...
I think her experience of who is more prejudice counts and yours doesn't.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 05:59 PM
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30. That's pretty absurd.
So what we're saying is. HA! You don't like transgendered people you stupid RWers! Well you have a straight female who looks a little like a transgendered person even though she isn't! HA HA HA.

What does that even mean??? What kind of attack is that?

It is ONLY an attack on TG people. Not on Ann Coulter.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 07:43 PM
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62. we disagree
personal attacks work on RWers

and they consider pretty much anything but white and heterosexual to be negative.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:04 PM
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34. Well
If "it" was transgender, it'd explain a lot of stuff, such as her irrepressible anger at anything and everyone not agreeing with "it". I think that she has a lot of unresolved anger that she's projecting onto us. That's her problem, but she's making it our problem.
Ringo
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:12 PM
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39. Calling people it is a bad deal, my friend.
But her being transgendered doesn't explain anything, because SHE'S NOT TRANSGENDERED. She's a FASCIST. Which explains her behavior even more clearly.

I know that we've all grown up with trans women being movie monsters: norman bates in his mother's wig, the guy in silence of the lamb, etc. etc. But those characters are an expression of people-- especially men's-- own anxiety about their gender. It has nothing to do with trans people.

TRANS PEOPLE ARE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:21 PM
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44. You misunderstand
I don't have anything against transgendered people. It's not my thing; I don't really understand it that well but I'm no fundamentalist on gay rights.

As I said to Maddie: I'm talking about mAnn specifically. I think that mAnn - as well as Limbaugh and other RWers - have a lot of unresolved anger. And the reason that they're so hateful is because 1. it works, and 2. they're projecting all of that anger onto us.

I'm also saying that perhaps some of mAnn's hatefulness could be due to self-hatred. I'm no psychologist though. It's just an opinion.

Sorry if you hate me now. I want to get along with everyone.
Ringo
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:14 PM
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41. Oh I see
Those "Its" aren't capable of rational discussion and suffer from unresolved anger about being "Its".

Thanks for clearing that up, Ringo.

:sarcasm:
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:18 PM
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42. No no no
I'm talking about mAnn specifically. Not transgendered people in general. It's like when I saw RWers. I'm talking about the Limbaugh/Hannity crowd. Not all conservatives in general.

Please don't misunderstand me. I want to get along with everyone.
Ringo
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:21 PM
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43. a great start would be not addressing transgender people as "it."
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 06:22 PM by maddiejoan
Lennon would have kicked your teeth down your throat for that.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:23 PM
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46. maddie
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 06:26 PM by Ringo84
Well, actually, Lennon nearly put someone in the hospital when someone suggested that he and Brian had had sex when they vacationed in Spain together. I'm not saying that he was anti-homosexual or anti-transgendered. But keep that in mind. And as I said, I was talking about mAnn. Not transgendereds in general.
Ringo
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:31 PM
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49. Lennon was anti people calling HIM a homo.
If someone called Epstein a faggot -- he would have kicked their ass. period.

Sorry --You get no respect from me for calling any person an "It."

And your insistence in the face of cold hard facts that Ann Coulter is anything but a heterosexual genetically born female, only solidifies for me that you wish to hold on to the fantasy that she is a transexual.
If your purpose in labeling her as an "It" isn't meant to insult transexuals (I can assure you I am insulted) then back off it, apologize to me and the board for being an insensitive dolt --and be done with it.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:53 PM
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55. You're right
Edited on Sun Jul-09-06 07:03 PM by Ringo84
John loved Brian. I see what you're saying now.

And your insistence in the face of cold hard facts that Ann Coulter is anything but a heterosexual genetically born female, only solidifies for me that you wish to hold on to the fantasy that she is a transexual.


Uh..OK. I don't know if she is or not. It does sound a lot like a rumor that was started by someone who was pissed off by some of her comments. By posting on this thread, I'm not throwing my absolute support behind the view that she is a transexual.

Remember: I didn't start the thread or the rumor. I'm just responding to a thread. I didn't intend to step on anyone's toes in the process.

As for the "fantasy that she's a transexual", I dunno. She may be. She may not be. Who really knows? Either way, Ann'll probably benefit by this rumor anyway. She'll mention it in a future column saying "look how desperate lib'rals are to find something against me". So yeah - we probably should give this topic a rest.

Sorry you were insulted. It seems like you can't do anything these days without insulting someone. You do one thing, you insult one group of people. You do the other thing, you insult the other group of people. In any case, I don't want to be your enemy, MaddieJoan. Or anyone else's, for that matter. I don't like being in the spotlight whether it's positive or negative. :-(

In any case, I don't believe that you're "unnormal". It's what's normal for you, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Ringo


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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:59 AM
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70. Ann Coulter is not a transsexual, Ringo.
It's verifiable by her childhood photos, which are all over the internet. So why should we continue to call her a transsexual when we know she's not unless we think that it is an insult to call someone transsexual. We don't call her Islamic. We don't call her a Feminist or a Black Revolutionary. RWers also don't like those things.

I know you're not trying to hurt anyone, just think carefully about what you're saying here, that's all.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 10:39 PM
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63. That's not what Ringo is saying

Some very vocal people on various issues are actually exhibiting "reaction formation". That's all Ringo is saying.

Look at J. Edgar Hoover, for instance.

Adolf Hitler's family had a high incidence of congenital abnormalities, including his own physical deformity (he only had one testicle).

So one wonders whether Ann Coulter's bizarre behavior is driven by some sort of reaction formation.


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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:09 PM
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38. To call her that is offensive
It is an ineffectual attempt to offend the senses of Coulter's followers planting the idea that she isn't what she appears. I love to call her Annthrax, however.

By the way the reason the Right's labeling is more effective is not because they have better propaganda, it is because while our voices are muted theirs are widely disseminated and repeated via the Corporate Media.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:29 PM
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48. I'm Astounded...
... at the fact that people STILL need to be reminded of this. Excellent rant... I'll bet it won't be the last time you have do do it.

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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:38 PM
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50. I don't normally mind slapping people with their own hypocrisy...
however, being transgender is a truly tough row to hoe, and I would like trans people to feel as NORMAL as possible -- and I care about this more than I care about insulting some dumb hateful moron who won't read my posts anyway...

So I agree -- there are much better ways to criticize Adolph Coulter than insinuating she's transgendered...
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:44 PM
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51. Thanks.
For the record though --I do feel quite "normal" :)
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 06:46 PM
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53. Good !
Because you are!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 07:18 PM
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57. it's the whole ''liberal'' thing of calling conservatives gay or
transgendered or whatever homo thing you want to stick up there -- that indicates a deep well of homophobia to me.

these ''liberals'' want to call conservatives the worst thing they can -- so it's ''hey -- they're gay or trannie or whatever.''

as a gay guy -- i'm always stunned -- and have gotten into plenty of arguments here regarding it.

they hide behind the hypocrisy argument -- like it's a magic safespot they can hide their own homophobia behind.

it's the same when some winger makes anti-gay comments -- and the FIRST thing you hear --''oh they're gay''.

and sorry to say most people who hate lesbians, gay, and transgendered folk aren't gay.

they just hate -- and that's the scary part - because they cannot be redeemed under any circumstance -- if tapeworms could get rabies -- they'd be rabid tapeworms.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 10:44 PM
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64. This is why people do that...

It is a legitimate question to ask in trying to understand irrational hatred...

http://changingminds.org/explanations/behaviors/coping/reaction_formation.htm

Reaction formation is one of Freud's original defense mechanisms.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 07:19 PM
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58. Re:
If Ann is transexual, it's her business. I can see what readmore is saying about calling her "Arab" or "black".

Besides which: by furthering unsubstantiated rumors such as this one, we're playing her game. Better to win in the war of ideas with her instead of the war of insults.
Ringo
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 10:51 PM
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65. Deal with it. As long as snotty Scotty is gay then Ann is a Tranny
As you know, according to DU, ALL homo haters are really gay. There was that dick wire & porno story (on late teenage men who get hard whenn the wind changes) that proves it. You have one supposed woman, we have a whole White House of Nazis DU wants us to claim as gay. As if Rip Taylor isn't enough. Cry me a river.:P
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:46 AM
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68. I admire your spirit, I just don't happen to agree
Doesn't mean you don't have valid points. It's just that the scrawny asshole has held itself up to be this paragon of virtue and value and has made some of the most hateful remarks about all GBLT's. It's not the pot calling the kettle black, it's the *kettle* shitting on the pot while pretending not to be one.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:12 AM
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72. WHAT IS SHE PRETENDING NOT TO BE???!!!!!
Sorry to scream but JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!

"It's not the pot calling the kettle black, it's the *kettle* shitting on the pot while pretending not to be one."

SHE IS NOT A TRANSSEXUAL. She is not pretending to be anything, except maybe human. She is a woman. A straight woman who hates gays. To say that she is a hypocrite because she is really a transsexual is delusional. She is not shitting on the gay community because she is a GLBT person who hates herself. SHE IS A STRAIGHT WOMAN who hates GAYS.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:01 AM
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73. She's pretending to be
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 02:14 AM by Raine
a pretty woman but she is really butt-ugly. Coulter is supposed to be the anti-blue haired little ole repuke lady (an image repukes wanted to get away from) but they went too far and ended up with an ugly hateful sub-human.

EDITED: To make the insult clearer.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:05 AM
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74. So is that what we mean when we say transsexual?
A butt-ugly woman?
Hateful ugly freaks?

Or are you just adding an insult to Ann Coulter for the hell of it with no relationship to the context of this thread.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:07 AM
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76. I just threw in an insult
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 02:18 AM by Raine
for the hell of it. Maybe I should have said she was sub-human instead of just saying she was a freak. :-(

EDIT: I'll change it since it seems like some might interpret it the wrong way.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:09 AM
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77. human

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:18 AM
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78. In full agreement. Hey SR /nt
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:49 AM
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79. Why does this have to be considered a "transgender" thing?
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 03:50 AM by symbolman
I don't look at it that way at all when I call her Mann Coulter - there are plenty of women who I've known who had mustaches (maybe from being Italian or whatever country they came from), and they were'nt particularly attractive so they'd be considered more "manly" than "womanly" and not desireable..

Sure this is NOT a nice thing to say or think, everyone is beautiful in their own way.. I had a pal gal we all called "Squatty Body", but that wasn't us insulting Midgets or Dwarfs when we said it..

I think that some folks are trying to conscript this and make it a GLBT issue for the sake of arguement, in the real world people find people attractive or unattactive and even with that said, and being a cruel truth, UGLY goes all the WAY to the BONE, as the old saying goes.. and nothing fits Mann Coulter than that statement alone, she's nothing BUT skin and BONES and them BONES IS UGLY, a black soul..

In my mind when I say Mann Coulter, it's because she's going beyond what I would call a "liberated" style woman and into territory that even MEN shouldn't go into.

She actually looks more like a bulemic chair, but I'm sure that furniture makers could all me on that if I called her THAT..

I like Mann Coulter, and I've got lots of GLBT friends, the thought of THEM Hadn't entered my mind when I saw Mann Coulter penned and Pegger it to her myself.

I worry that we can get SO PC that we end up a Party Of ONE, where every single person is a "special Interest group" and then there is NO WAY the Dems can win, there'll be nothing but bitching from too many individuals while the right wing LOCK STEPS (more like GOOSE STEPS) all over us..

It's how they win in the end, while we argue about every little thing..
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:18 AM
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80. What do you mean "make it a GLBT" issue. People call her a transsexual.
People say she "used to be a man". What YOU mean when YOU say it is irrelevant. What most people mean when they say it as that Ann Coulter is a transsexual and that makes her a hypocrite.

Thanks for trivializing our lives about making fun of trans people as a "little thing" that's "SO PC".

And meanwhile, that's for throwing a jab at butch women while you're at it.

If I want anti-trans bigotry I'll go to freerepublic and get my ignorance served with honesty.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:53 AM
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81. Sorry as your average heterosexual male
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 05:55 AM by symbolman
it's how I see it..

Thanks for your attack, proves my point, not to mention the projection - it's ME that has the problem, instead of addressing the issue of what MOST people think..

A lot of people have never seen or met a transexual, some think it's perversion, there's a whole spectrum, you might take a little more time to think about it..

Nice little bout of intolerance you got there.

Me, a Freeper type? That's fucking hilarious..

Oh by the way I used to hang out at Hamburger Mary's in Maui, hawaii for years - is that a Freeper? Some of my best friends are GLBT..

So hateful.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:13 AM
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82. As your average partner of a trans person who has a chip missing
on his tooth from being bashed by a bunch of "average" heterosexual boys who think that gender difference is a "perversion", I think I have a better understanding of the depth and the breadth of the issue than you. And having a few GLBT friends or a few black friends or a few "whatever" friends will not exonerate you from jumping into a thread and acting like a jerk.

I didn't call you a freeper. I said that if I want to deal with anti-gay jokes, I'll get it straight from the tap and go hang with the folks that do it best, not the people who pretend to be *down* and brag about having a few gay friends while they trivialize our lives. Yes, I do expect more from DU.

You're so offended by a post telling people to stop calling Ann Coulter "Mann" because she's not a transsexual because it's trivial and we have better things to do. But you post on threads that exist to make fun of Ann Coulter because it's so productive?

So, no. I don't accept people who come to a progressive board and claim that people who think that transgendered people are "perverts" are a part of some acceptable "spectrum" that I have to consider the feelings of, anymore than I would accept people calling black members of this board by racial epithets. Any more than I would accept someone saying, "all you gays should accept that some democrats think you're perverts and shut up about it."

You've "proved" that I'm hostile to you. Well, you bet I'm hostile towards you. Anyone who tells me that the lives of the people I love don't deserve consideration gets my hostility until they learn to respect the diversity of other progressives.


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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 07:01 AM
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83. Yeah
I'd say there's a chip missing somewhere..

I have no time to argue with someone that intentionally misinterpretes everything I have said.

One thing I did learn in my gay bar experiences, there was always at least one person who hated those who are NOT gay or NOT trannys, and you certainly fit the bill..

I might as well tell you to shut the fuck up about the war as I am a veteran and only veteran's have the right to an opinion. Absurd, no?

You will have the dubious honor of being the only person I have ever put on ignore in the 5 years I've been here on the DU and a hard working activist who's spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and sweated Blood to fight the evil in the white house FOR EVERYONE'S SAKES.

I hope you can possibly find happiness, but I severely doubt it.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 10:40 AM
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84. She either is or she isn't, regardless of what anyone thinks about it
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 10:46 AM
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85. I prefer Annthrax.
But I'm not going to label someone "unpure" because they choose to call her mAnn. It's still a free country no? If you are never offended you aren't living in one...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 10:59 AM
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86. Unfortunately it will continue to happen here.
Free speech and all. You will have to ignore those that do call her that. It's like every now and then when DUers condone prison rape. I don't like hearing it but it will always be said. We can plead for it to stop but it won't happen.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:01 PM
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87. *Yawn*
These types of posts are getting old.
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