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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:42 AM
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Republican says Coulter does not represent his Party
did anyone see this article from some guy that worked in the Reagan and first Bush administration ? it may have been posted already, his name is B. Jay Cooper.

but he claims that Coulter and some of the others like Hannity and just right wingers in general do not represent his party. he goes on about how Republicans are mostly moderate. of course he ends off by saying both sides are the same and don't care.

i think it's a bunch of crap. it's not just Coulter but the fucking administration is doing anything they can to take away women's rights and many other things we worked hard for. if the party is moderate as you claim how can you stand by and support the piece of shit in office and allow the fucker to take away women's rights.

and of course his ideal Republican is Ronald Reagan who is part of the reason we have the problems in this country today. his attacks on the poorest ane least powerful . just the whole selfishness, greed, lack of consideration for others. the same shit spouted by Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter and others who DO represent the average Republican. the only difference is that they don't have Reagans ability to come across as loving and caring about your country while preaching their hate.


here is part of the article :

<I'M a Republican. Ann Coulter does not speak for me. But a lot of people think she does.

The loudest, noisiest, most sensational and now, most repugnant, voices on the Republican side of the political spectrum are defining Republicans. I could blame cable television, but it is tough to blame cable for preferring long-legged blond female Republicans to balding middle-age guys like me. They sure make for better-looking TV.

To me, Ann Coulter's exercise of her right to free speech is the political equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theater. She crosses the line of decency. To me, individuals who engage in name-calling and hate speech to get attention, sell books, increase speaking fees and feather their own nests, are speaking for themselves, not any political party.

My problem is the popular presumption that she represents the Republican Party. We all get painted with her tainted brush. As a result, the popular perception holds Republicans are against almost everything from abortion to homosexuals. And nasty about it to boot. I feel safe in saying that the vast majority — I would guess all but one — of Republicans is not against grieving widows created by the worst crime ever committed against America.

I once worked for a senior Reagan administration appointee back in the 1980s who used to say of the right wing — "they like to look good losing." Translation: They'd rather go down defending their principles than by — as a democratic government is supposed to do — finding a compromise that makes progress for the majority.

That trend of digging in on principle started back then. And, 20 years later, all Republicans are defined by what I believe is a minority of Republicans.

To paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen, I have to tell you: "I know some Republicans. Some Republicans are friends of mine. And Ann Coulter is no mainstream Republican. She does not define most of us. She is on the spectrum of political beliefs, sad to say, but she is not representative of the majority.">

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/4032514.html
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:45 AM
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1. Too late!
She IS the hideous face of the GOP now. :)



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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:49 AM
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2. Yup. TOO LITTLE< TOO LATE< The Decider has not spoken aginst her
She is the face of the Pub party.

She has the stench of dead meat.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:10 AM
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23. "She has the stench of dead meat."
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 05:11 AM by Hubert Flottz
And that's on a good day! I took up for Madd Ann the other day when someone told me she stinks...I said, "like she-it!"

Ann is a typical GOPer through and through! The GOPers I know still think she's fine. You can't reprogram a Freeped out brain. Once the mind moves right of center it's totally turned to she-it. Not even Mr. Clean or the White Knight from Ajax, can fix that she-it! A blood stained brain has only one way to slide and that is toward the pits. A Repub mind only trickles one way and that is downward in a hurry. Supply side Bull She-it is all they got, besides Faith Based Bull She-it! Ann needs to separate the Church and Snake once and for all in that twisted GOP brain and see herself for the she-it-bag, that she really is!

Edit...GET REAL, is my advice to the GOP, you helped create this monster mouthpiece of yours called dAnn, just like you all helped create the Nazi asshole in the White House, so live with that She-it!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:38 AM
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26. There should be a HALL OF FAME for your posts, LOL
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:35 AM
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32. Some folks around here look down their snouts at my posts, but
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 09:37 AM by Hubert Flottz
I try to be as nice about GOPers as I can! At all times! There ain't much use trying to win GOPer hearts and minds because the bastids don't have hearts and their minds are so damned narrow they are worthless too. A GOPer like Ann only has two moving parts, that's her mouth and her asshole and those two parts interchangable.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:36 AM
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13. College Republicans wanted her to speak everywhere
She is the face of the republicans. Hateful and vile.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 08:44 AM
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28. Too Late, Fella!
Too late, fella! Neither Buckaroo Bush nor Dennis Hastert nor even Kenneth Mehlman stepped up and denounced Coulter's hateful, vitriolic rhetoric. By their silence, GOP party leaders have given their tacit approval to Coulter's nasty polemics.

Ann Coulter is now the hateful face of today's Republican Party and I hope that it hangs around the necks of elephantistas with the fragrance of three days-dead road kill.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:50 AM
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3. She not only represents it, she is the SOUL of it.
Who do you think buys all those books? I'll clue you; They are not Democrats.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:52 AM
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4. We should hang Coulter around their necks like an albatross.
But Democrats are too wimpy to play hardball.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:05 AM
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9. She's placed herself there all by her self
Why would you call democrats wimpy?
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5thJames Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:59 AM
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5. there is some truth to it.
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 02:01 AM by 5thJames
I've read one of Colter's books, and I've heard her some. Believe it or not, she has a lot of good things to say. It's that she's like Rush Limbaugh; they both have good things to say, and in that sense they speak for a lot of conservatives, but the real problem is in HOW they say it. Unfortunately, they get a lot of airtime. Mocking, name-calling, etc, should have no place in genuine discussion. Although I certainly understand how emotions get charged, which often short-circuits the reasoning part of our minds.

By the way, I'm the new guy here. I hope to be in some good discussions.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:05 AM
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8. what exactly are the "good things" Coulter, Limbaugh have to say ?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:08 AM
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10. Her name is Coulter or Coultergeist
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 02:22 AM by Erika
and what good things does she and Rush have to say? Rush, the oxycontin/viagara man with three divorces? Let's hear the wisdom of his words. Carry on.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:24 AM
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12. We're waiting
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 02:33 AM by Erika
as you tell us how wise Coultergeist and rushbo is?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:44 AM
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16. Yes, do tell us what good things Coulter & Limbaugh have to say
Also. Is it Rush speaking or is his talent on loan from illegal narcotics? It's all so confusing.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:54 AM
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17. I know what you mean
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 02:55 AM by charlie
I have good ideas too, but they always come off wrong. For example, being a good lockstep liberal I'm a staunch supporter of abortion rights. And I have this really great idea:
All babies should be made into wallets.
But whenever I offer the idea in a public venue, it comes out like this:
REPUBLICANS SHOULD DIE FROM STOMACH CANCER!
Happens every time. It's a pretty spiff message in its own right, but it's too red meat, doesn't have the crossover appeal I'm shooting for. A real problem, eh? I can sympathize with Mdme Coulter and Mssr Limbaugh.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:29 AM
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24. Hey new guy...
I'd like to welcome you, but also to offer you a piece of advice. Anne Coulter has NOTHING good to say. She espouses hate and nastiness, and so does Rush Limbaugh. Defending ANYTHING they say will lower your believability quotient here several hundredfold.

It's ALL about what they say. AND they way they say it. And if you can't see that, I don't see you lasting long enough here to engage in the types of discussions you are excited about participating in.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:36 AM
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25. Welcome to the DU ...but I would bet you won't find too many here that
read/listen to ANN and RASH seriously.

Despicable demagogues
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:02 AM
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6. Coultergeist is beloved by the right
As she says 9/11 widows delighted in their husbands deaths, Muslims should be killed or converted, and the NY Times bombed. Just another God fearing GOP. They spawned her, let them live with her.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:04 AM
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7. Just another lie
they are telling, she does represent them.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:10 AM
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11. along with rushbo
They loved them, let them live with them.
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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:36 AM
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14. I don't seem 'em rushing to condemn her
until then, i take their silence as approval.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 02:38 AM
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15. Exactly. She's the belle of the RNC n/t
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:20 AM
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18. Precisely
however, this might be a start. Time will tell.There will always be the shrill shills of Coulter & Limbaugh types out there, they make their money on the swirl of controversy. If their becomes a movement to distance and discredit them then perhaps we are seeing a break in the lock of the wacko's. It would be great for honest folks with different ideas to have calm or heated discussions about the issues and how to solve them without the mud flying. No party or person has all the good or workable ideas, we need open discussions to find the answers through compromise.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:45 AM
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21. I was about to post similar
I have not seen much in the way of Republican condemnation of Coulter?

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:26 AM
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19. As long as the Rs bulk buy her books to push her up the bestseller lists
they own her sorry butt. She is one of their preeminent spokes people. As long as they invite her on to their shows to provide "commentary" and quote her, she's theirs. They have endorsed her ravings in dollars and time. And look how far she had to go before they considered her to "have crossed the line of decency." She has called for every conceivable violent, hateful act you could think of and only now is she to be reviled?

That guy owns Ann Coulter too. She is an albatross they courted. Tough crunchies.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:11 AM
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20. These people are guilty of hate speech!
That includes virtually all of the r/wingnut commentators.
The nasty things they have to say, while maybe a little understandable if they were only talking about specific politicians, is wholly unabidable as applied to the general population, of whatever persuasion.
There should be lawsuits all over the place.

When the sons of prominent "southern conservatives" were burning down churches and that spitting himage-Matthews-was busy telling everyone that the criminals must be liberals or gays, that hairball perpetrator of right wing falsehoods should have defended his snarky opinions in court!

So much hurt has been brought upon us all by this kind of crap, in my opinion, these screechers should be spending the remainder of their time in prison.
And now they have the incredible audacity to refer to us as "angry."
I listen to them whining that we're all too partisan, that the country is too divided. Those bastards brought this about almost single-handedly!

Should we back off and resume our normal go-along-to-get-along way of approaching politics? I say NO! We need to push and keep pushing until we destroy them utterly--drive the evil power grabbers out af politics and out of the republican party to the point where it'll be another hundred years before they can find themselves back in public service. Anne Limbaugh and Lush Coulter do, indeed, speak for them. GRRRR!
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:57 AM
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22. trying to have their cake and eat it too
Mann Coulter doesn't represent them but they sure like having her around, to give voice to the darkest thoughts of the ignorant, resentful rabble who can be manipulated into voting en bloc for Republicans.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 07:08 AM
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27. Oh, really? They love this stringy-haired misfit.
She says the things they haven't got the nerve to say.

They are behind her all the way.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 08:46 AM
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29. Coulter is a mainstream Rethug
She just says outright what they obfuscate and communicate with code words.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 08:53 AM
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30. i will take it. that works for me. this is what i have asked for from
the republicans i know. not to own her. to challenge her words. to be disgusted. he has done exactly what i expect of his party. pat him on the back

i dont think moore represents me, nor sheehan, nor hassertt. (sp). from the beginning i have seen that they all have their voice that represents only themselves. it benefits the dem party in some instances, but in others they are just as willing to take down the dem party. they are not our voice.

i can appreciate what this republican says
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 08:55 AM
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31. Yes, she does!
And we're going to keep saying it, spreading the message about your party of HATE!
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