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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:06 PM
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Clarkies, please don't be mad at me ...
I really really love General Clark, he would make an incredible POTUS.

But ....

Al Gore is not the same man who let us down in 2000. Six years later, Gore has changed; I think he gets it now, and if we give him another chance and get behind him, he's not going to let us down again.

I'm willing to take a chance with him again, I think, if he decides to run.


But I still love Wes more. :)
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:07 PM
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1. ..........
:popcorn:
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haydukelives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:10 PM
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2. LOL
by the way, I'm not mad
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:11 PM
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3. It's brilliant that we have so
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 11:12 PM by zidzi
many beyond qualified men and women who would make excellent actual Presidents of the United States. :popcorn:
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:26 PM
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7. and astonishing who actually tries to fill their shoes
as the current POTUS.


Hillary rocked uptown today!
But Wes rocks everyday!

Go Al!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:14 PM
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4. I'll get behind him
If he wins the nomination :hi:

GO WES!!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:15 PM
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5. I'm for Gore if he gets the nod.
But my first choice is always Clark....traitor. :P
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:36 PM
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9. but but but ....
I still love Wes more than Al :loveya:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:15 PM
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6. See, I think that same Al Gore always was there.
He just decided to shut it down during the campaign. I think it was a choice.

I would have been thrilled with a Gore presidency. But I'm not kidding myself...the guy is a shit campaigner. I still want to punch his fucking face for moving to Bush's podium during the debates. Sorry, Al, love ya.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:27 PM
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8. Go with it, he'd be a great POTUS. nt
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:39 PM
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10. I have preferred President-elected Gore for a long time.
I was a Deaner, not a Clarkie, in the primaries, but if Gore runs, I am for him far and away above anyone else.

He has raised his speaking to the level of his thinking. He is complete.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 05:25 PM
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24. "He has raised his speaking to the level of his thinking"
Nail, meet hammer!

Exactly how his speech felt to me.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:39 PM
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11. He would and would have. But it's more about our guys have got to start
speaking "truth to power" like Gore did today, and Galloway did in front of the would-be lynch mob a few months ago. And let's not forget Howard Dean on Blitzer last week.

I't time to take the gloves off and speak in simple declarative sentences. It's the only thing the sheeple are going to get.



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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:42 PM
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12. It's too soon for me to change my alliegance
Anything can happen between now and 2008. I am proud to support them both and have them both in my party. Now if I can get them on the same ticket. Clark Gore - two veterans still fighting for the constitution.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:56 PM
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13. Wes is my guy, and I don't see that changing.
I'd be happy to support Gore if he got the nomination though, and I regret to confess that I was one of the Nader voters in 2000. I really love Russ Feingold too. Lots of great Dems out there. It's definitely way too early for me to get involved in candidate wars (still have PTSD from the last ones).

Cheers.:toast:
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 05:31 AM
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14. What we really want more than anything else.
Someone who has actually has a functioning brain and some ethics in the White House.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 07:02 AM
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15. Gore "got it" in 2000. The people who failed to see it didn't "get it."
nt
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 07:05 AM
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16. How did Gore let us down in 2000?
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 07:05 AM by WilliamPitt
He fought the results for a month. He got cracked by the highest court. He did the best he could.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 04:32 PM
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17. he ran a lackluster campaign
He just didn't make an impression. He lacked genuine passion, seemed like he was going through the motions. He failed to properly distinguish himself from Bush.

Most people don't pay attention, that's the sad fact of our populace. The Bush evildoers knew how to manipulate the public in their favor with the right choice of words and actions. Gore and his campaign team were not saavy enough to keep up.

If Gore runs his '08 campaign with the same genuine passion we saw on Monday, I think he can do it this time. And I hope he hires Thom Hartmann or Jeffrey Feldman (www.frameshopisopen.com) as an adviser to train him in NLP techniques. Communication is everything in any political campaign.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 04:34 PM
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18. Wes has a better butt than Al
but if Al keeps on doing what's he's doing, then I could support him
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 04:43 PM
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22. Are you one of them .....
GAYS?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 05:23 PM
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23. heavens no
why are you?

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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 04:35 PM
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19. no problem. how about gore-clark, or
clark-gore? i'd be even more excited about this than in 92 with clinton-gore!
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A Brand New World Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 04:39 PM
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20. I love Clark but would like to see a Gore/Clark ticket.
I think that would be a winner! IMHO: Gore's main problem in 2000 was Lieberman. What a poor choice! I didn't like Lieberman in 2000 and definitely don't now.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 04:41 PM
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21. Gore/Clark '08!!
That would be sweet!
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 05:27 PM
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25. I like the Gore of today
so much better than the Gore I voted for in 2000.He has more than fire-in-the-belly, he has the intelligence to temper that fire when, on ocassion, he needs to.

What I don't understand is how the Clarkies wrap their heads around Clark's continued support of the School of Americas. That place should be bulldozed off of the land of our Founding Fathers, that is now our land. (And liberally sprinkled w/tons of salt.)
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 05:31 PM
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26. Will Gore run?
I thought he said that he wasn't. Is he setting himself up for another run? That's what I don't get. Clark is no lock run again either.
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 08:23 PM
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27. Well, of course, you're certainly welcome to take a chance with
whomever you choose......as long as it's one of the good guys which, of course, Gore is.

As for me, it took a lot more than one great speech for me to jump on the Clark bandwagon. (I did a LOT of soul searching and research before I dared to ask anyone to leave the comforts of their private life and jump into the nasty world that is Presidential politics.) It's going to take a lot more than one great speech to knock me off it. ;)

But, argh! I hate the Clark as VP talk! What a waste of a rare talent at a time when the world sorely needs it. If Wes chooses not to run, or if he chooses to but does not get the nomination, there's got to be a position that makes more use of the General's knowledge, experience, intelligence, foresight, compassion, international contacts and the respect that other world leaders have for him than President of the Senate!
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