Senators vote to give illegals Social Security?

[Holly_Hobby]

True? I don't get it. Can someone please enlighten me. Serious question. Thanks.

[The Magistrate]

1. Do You Have A Source You Could Share, Ma'am?

[Holly_Hobby]

5. It's from an email

Here it is....

"THESE ARE THE SENATORS WHO VOTED TO GIVE ILLEGAL ALIENS SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS. REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL PARTY, THESE POLITICIANS NEED TO BE DEFEATED IN 2006, 2008 OR 2010 WHENEVER THEY COME UP FOR OFFICE. SEND THIS TO ANYONE YOU KNOW IN ANY OF THE STATES LISTED. THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEED TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION. THAT IS UNLESS THEY DO NOT MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS WHEN AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE BEING LEFT OUT.


Grouped by Home State


Alabama:

Alaska: Stevens (R-AK), Yea

Arizona: McCain (R-AZ), Yea

Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Yea

California: Boxer (D-CA), Yea Feinstein (D-CA), Yea

Colorado: Salazar (D-CO), Yea

Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (D-CT), Yea

Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Yea Carper (D-DE), Yea

Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Yea

Georgia:


Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea

Idaho:


Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Yea Obama (D-IL), Yea

Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Yea

Iowa: Harkin (D-IA), Yea

Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Yea

Kentucky:


Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA), Yea

Maine:


Maryland: Mikulski (D-MD), Yea Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea

Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Yea Kerry (D-MA), Yea

Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Yea

Minnesota:


Mississippi:


Missouri:


Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea

Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Yea

Nevada: Reid (D-NV), Yea

New Hampshire:


New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea Menendez (D-NJ), Yea

New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Yea

New York: Clinton (D-NY), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea

North Carolina:


North Dakota: Dorgan (D-ND), Yea

Ohio: DeWine (R-OH), Yea Voinovich (R-OH), Yea

Oklahoma:


Oregon: Wyden (D-OR), Yea

Pennsylvania: Specter (R-PA), Yea

Rhode Island: Chafee (R-RI), Yea Reed (D-RI), Yea

South Carolina: Graham (R-SC), Yea

South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD), Yea

Tennessee:


Texas:


Utah:


Vermont: Jeffords (I-VT), Yea Leahy (D-VT), Yea

Virginia:


Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Murray (D-WA), Yea

West Virginia: Rockefeller (D-WV), Not Voting

Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Yea Kohl (D-WI), Yea

Wyoming: "

[whistle]

13. Who is the source of this email and where did they get their information

...what bill did these senators vote on?

[whistle]

2. Don't know, is it a bill in congress? Or just a rumor that some neo-con

...talk show host started spewing out over the airways?

[Holly_Hobby]

6. See my post #5 - from an email n/t

[larrysh]

3. Since migrant workers pay in but are afraid

to file for benefits when they hit 65, the social security system is running a surplus (at least a surplus from funds paid in by undocumented
migrants). What the Senate is voting on is so migrants can collect
their Social Security when they hit 65, even if their legal status
to be in the country remains questionable at the time.

[nosillies]

4. Referring to the email that's been going around for a while?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/socialsecurity.asp

[Holly_Hobby]

8. I knew someone here would know.....thanks

From Snopes...

"If all of the above made your eyes glaze over, it boils down to this: While the list of who voted which way is accurate, what was being voted on was a motion to table (that is, stick in a closet in hopes that it will never be seen again) a motion to deny former illegals credit for the Social Security payments they made while in the U.S. illegally."

[Minnesota Libra]

7. Shouldn't some benefits be reserved for.................

....LEGAL immigrants/citizens?? Or, we could always drop the word LEGAL from the English language.

[Holly_Hobby]

9. If they pay into it, why not?

If they steal a SS # to work here illegally, I would need a good case to explain why they should get it. I'm open to enlightenment.

[Minnesota Libra]

11. The operative word here is LEGAL - are those people............

.....who pay into the system ALL LEGAL residents?? NO!! Therefore, again I ask, shouldn't some benefits be reserved for legal residents??

[lonestarnot]

18. Bwwwwwwwwwwa!

:rofl:

[nosillies]

10. Actually, my husband is a "legal immigrant," but not a citizen

They get an even better name: RESIDENT ALIEN

I always thought that was so cool, slightly punk. I think he should put RA after his name, like MD or CPA.:P

[Minnesota Libra]

12. Notice I covered that issue by saying................

.....legal immigrants/citizens - meaning as long as they are here legally then obtaining SS benefits should apply to both legal immigrants and legal citizens.

It's the illegal ones that should be denied.

[Bridget Burke]

15. Anyone who pays into Social Security should get the benefits.

Whether or not you think they deserve them.

[Minnesota Libra]

19. You're right IF they are here LEGALLY.........

....if they aren't here legally then they deserve nothing.

[Bridget Burke]

21. That's your opinion.

Which will be given due consideration.

[endarkenment]

14. No human being is an 'illegal'. nt.

[matcom]

20. THANK.FUCKING.YOU!

no truer words have ever been written on this site. :applause:

[SoCalDem]

16. Procedure for emailed "information"

DELETE...do not even open..

If you are new to the political sphere, you will spare yourself a lot of angst by just deleting those anecdotal "goodies" sent by friends & family :)

Anything you wonder about is just a click away with google.

Real friends don't send you crap to piss you off , and ones who think you might think like them, need to be enlightened:)

[lonestarnot]

17. Why not they're stealing it anyway.

[Bridget Burke]

22. Please explain.

[endarkenment]

23. He can't, obviously.

He would have to deal with the 350 Billion and growing SS suspense account.