I done tole you: Gore/Dean

[Saboburns]

I told you. I told you. I told you.

Dammit man, I told you.

I told you that this once great nation needs to smacked upside its fucking head with the truth.

I told you that we needed candidates with honesty, intelligence, integrity, and most of all balls.

I told you if we run Clinton, or Warner, or Biden, or any other number of ho-hummers WHERE GOING TO LOSE, AGAIN.

I told you that if you wanted to kick the GOP right in the nuts and make em fucking bleed get Gore/Dean 2008.

I done tole you that.

[coldiggs]

1. I like Clinton. but ya in genearl I agree with you

[dolo amber]

2. Dean can't run in '08

He pretty much got the DNC gig in return for his promise not to do so. Not saying it's a good thing, just saying it's fact.

[KnaveRupe]

8. If Gore runs, and makes Dean his Veep candidate, however...

... well that's a ball game of a different color.

Gore/Dean would be an awe-inspiring ticket.

[caledesi]

16. I would love that ticket. nt

[mdmc]

29. no one could have stopped Dean's DNC takeover

without killing the party. Hell, was anyone left standing against Dean for DNC chair? I thought that Dean was the only candidate left standing...

[gulfcoastliberal]

3. Re-Elect Gore! "3rd term", baby!

He needs to clean up the disaster left by the illegal squatters in the WH.

[Zomby Woof]

4. And I done told you

Dean would never allow it... he would never be comfortable as a "second banana".

[patrice]

25. Howard Dean is a much more humble man than you say.

I've met him twice now and watched him, from relatively close, in person. Howard Dean is a man of the People; I know that because he shares "power".

I have a great deal of personal experience one:one with a few thousand people, so I know what I'm seeing here.

[The Doctor.]

5. LOL! Good post!

Nails on chalkboard (As another poster put it);

It's "WE'RE", not 'where'.
Not that it's material at all, but even though people rarely correct others on this board... grammar, spelling, and command of the English language garner more respect here than elsewhere.
(Not that I ever would claim to be perfect)

Welcome to DU!

There's much truth to be found here.

[kster]

6. Gore maybe, Dean

not until he explains why he made a video about the election theft machines then promptly Doesn't say anything about it.

[New Earth]

7. I say Gore and Kerry

our rightful Presidents.

[patrice]

12. Nice, but not Kerry's thing, I'm afraid.

The 2nd slot on the ticket that is.

[ladjf]

18. Please no skull and boners.

[blm]

35. Please, no sophomoric remarks from knee jerk FALSE CLAIMERS.

Please explain how S and B members WANTED Kerry to investigate and expose the fascist agenda when he uncovered IranContra, BCCI and the CIA drugrunning?

[ladjf]

41. Please don't tell me what to post.

My remarks are from the perspective of a 70 yr. old American worried sick over the current political situation in America.

It's my right to fear that it's a terrible idea to run two candidates, one for the Republicans and one for the Democrats, both from the exact same small, very elite College Fraternity, a fraternity that is most definitely not just another animal house. I'm not going to waste my time laying out everything I know about the Skull and Bones, as you doubtlessly already know the info anyway. I would prefer a much wider choice of candidates than that.

My remark was in no way "kneejerk". I am strongly opposed to Kerry's candidacy and have the right to voice some of my reasons. I have noticed that the surest way to get "flamed" on this board is to make a derogatory remark about Kerry's candidacy. The fervent support he receives from a small group of focused supporters is most interesting.

You can save your energy by not attempting to alter my posting style by your extremely rude attempts at "flaming".

[blm]

42. You want young people to BELIEVE Kerry is one w/BFEE and to not KNOW

real history?

Shame. At any age - shame.

You want to deny his efforts in exposing IranContra, BCCI, illegal wars in Central America, and CIA drugrunning just so you can charge that he's one of them? You think THAT helps America or the young in this country who mostly have no clue about real history?

Really responsible. Especially when we have a media already in place to lie against Democrats.

[ladjf]

44. I haven't denied anything about Kerry's efforts with the BCCI.

I haven't mentioned anything about Kerry but the S & K connection.

If you want the young to learn some history, how about recommending "Common Sense" by Thomas Paine and finding out how that one work rallied Americans in the Revolutionary War.

And if you want something really great to say about Kerry, you have failed to mention the greatest answer I've ever heard him give.

Today, Wolf Blitzer played the tape of Gore saying the the President has been breaking the law with regard to the warant-less wiretaps.

Wolf asked Gore point blank, "Do you believe what Mr. Gore just said about the President"?

I was expecting some of Kerry's usual beat around the bush type answer. But, he paused for about a second and answered clearly, firmly and succinctly, "YES". I liked that a lot. We need more politicians to answer questions like that with "yes" or "no" as the case might be. His good response impressed me.

[blm]

45. People who BELIEVE Kerry is one of the Bushgang will ignore BCCI

and his MANY other efforts to expose the wrongdoing. They can easily dismiss it as part of the coverup because there ARE so many Dems willing to bypass the revelations in IranContra and BCCI.

Bypassing the revelations in IranContra and BCCI already led to 9-11 and this Iraq war.

[Roho]

9. if

gore and dean are out i'll take...

Redford/Affleck

[FreedomAngel82]

10. For about the

millionth time Dean said he will NOT run in 2008 if he became the DNC chair and he became it.

[Brundle_Fly]

you don't have to run...

he said he wouldn't run for president, if the candidate picks him, he would serve at the pleasure of the nominee.

and I think he would say yes.

although I like clark as veep too.

[Brundle_Fly]

14. you don't have to run...

he said he wouldn't run for president, if the candidate picks him, he would serve at the pleasure of the nominee.

and I think he would say yes.

although I like clark as veep too.

[autorank]

11. I'm with you 100%...call it the North-South Kick-Ass Caravan!

If not this, then what?

If not now, then when?

That was the message today. Gore walked the talk, he stood tall, he's my man for 2008.

And Dean would be the perfect compliment.

[patrice]

13. I'd LOVE that.

[Senator]

15. And I'm still tellin' you -- 'Taint Enough

What Gore said is fine; as far as it goes. But it simply doesn't go far enough.

Actually, saying "criminal president" without saying impeachment really doesn't go anywhere.

It's kinda like saying that you have garnered the consent of the governed in Florida and thus the nation, and then failing to call for objection/denial of those unlawful electors.

No, Gore has not "walked the walk" on Stolen Elections (I or II) like Barbara Boxer, Howard Dean, John Conyers and shamefully few others have.

Unless and until he comes clean about January 6th, 2001, as Sen. Boxer did when she stood up on January 6th, 2005, he hasn't really changed.

No soup for Gore.

---
www.january6th.org

[ladjf]

17. I think you done told them some good stuff. Keep on talking.

[goforit]

19. Is this a breadth of fresh air or what!!!......GORE/DEAN = #1

[dave123williams]

20. I can't argue with 'kick 'em in the nuts'. It just makes sense.

[tomreedtoon]

21. I'm sorry, but Gore didn't fight well the first time.

Gore caved. Gore gave in. Gore allowed the Republicans to take his victory from him without a fight or a protest. (Or didn't you see "Fahrenheit 9/11" from the start?)

Ever since then, Gore has been releasing E-mails and making speeches that suggest he's a fighter. I can't see it as anything but a sad cry for attention and forgiveness. He would really like the nomination again, although he doesn't have any more idea what he would do to convince red-state America that he isn't a dishrag. He is just as much a "ho-hummer" as anyone else mentioned on the list.

I have yet to see any Democrat with a hope of nomination step up and state with any confidence what should be a new vision for America. Dean is close, but he can't be the candidate, since he vowed that he wouldn't run when he took the DNC chairmanship.

Maybe the only chance is to follow the hint on Aaron McGruder's "The Boondocks" from his MLK show: run Oprah Winfrey for President. At least, once a year, the White House Staff would get nice cars and gifts in a nationally-televised event.

[Vidar]

23. He called for recounts, went to court. What more do you want?

[tomreedtoon]

31. How about SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER, for one?

How about trying to rally the people who voted for him, saying that their votes were being stolen? How about making speeches suggesting that EVERYBODY, including Republicans, had a stake in assuring fairness and honesty in elections - and proclaiming that this election wasn't?

But no, that would be too much passion for him. That would indicate he really wanted the Presidency, and for more reasons than it would look good on his resume or be helpful in selling long-winded political books. Raising a ruckus would be...rude...of him. So he allowed Bush to steal the election in silence. He stopped any complaints by black Senators who were willing to raise the fraud issues on the basis of race, the issues he was too cowar...um, too POLITE...to raise. (As shown in "Fahrenheit 9/11," as I mentioned before.)

I'd rather nominate the Plaid Adder, or the guy who writes the Top 10 Republican Idiots list, or even that megalomaniac twerp Tom Tomorrow, as the Democratic nominee than Al Gore.

[NYCGirl]

34. And you missed it when he was on the news EVERY DAY even though

the Democrats had abandoned him — including his own running mate? Did you miss the "sore loserman" slurs? Weren't you paying attention AT ALL? I guess not.

[tomreedtoon]

37. And how did the right get away with those slurs?

Because he didn't FIGHT! You see, you don't seem to understand the concept of fighting for a cause even after all hope is gone. If he had, those Republican functionaries who complained in Florida would have been swamped by thousands of genuine citizens demanding that justice be done.

When did Gore snap "Call me Sore Loserman one more time, and I'll f*** with your head until your ears bleed"? When did he say that on the air? Never, because for him to even say "diddle with your head" would be too rude, too impolite, too...passionate. It would have indicated he believed he had the right to be President, and that he didn't want it stolen.

[NYCGirl]

39. He didn't say "I'll fuck with your head" as you so eloquently put it —

because he's an adult, not an adolescent. Why don't you show me an example of anyone using that kind of language outside of a schoolyard?

[tomreedtoon]

43. How about in a WAR, which Gore refused to fight?

Unless you've been raised on the pieties of MGM black and white war movies, people curse and scream and get angry in war. And Gore either refused to accept the fact that he was in a war, or didn't know how to fight it. Gore was hoping to win the Presidency with Robert's Rules of Order. Bush used an Uzi.

By the way, you used the actual curse word, which I discreetly censored. You showed some initiative. Which would make YOU a candidate a hundred times more interesting than Gore.

[NYCGirl]

27. He fought for SIX WEEKS, right up to the Supreme Court. Did you happen

to miss that?

[tomreedtoon]

36. Everyone missed it, because he didn't fight.

As mentioned in a post above, he was too "polite" to fight. To fight means to rally, to speak out, to rally the troops, to raise passions. Things that Gore has never been any good at. He didn't even have the inspiration or the wisdom to make a "You won't have Al Gore to kick around any more" speech, which might have gotten people to wonder if theft had occurred.

I begin to suspect that the only people who choose to vote for Gore (as opposed to being forced to vote for the only arternative to Republicans) are the ones who idolized their college literature professors.

[NYCGirl]

38. Bullshit. He fought without any help from the Democrats or the media.

Or did you conveniently forget that he was made fun of constantly for refusing to back down? You certainly have a convenient memory.

[tavalon]

22. I done heard you

I've been thinking on this one for a bit now.

Even before this here speech.

(yep, I speak southern, too)

[Fovea]

24. We need Dean at the DNC

We need a Gore/Boxer or a Gore/Kucinich or even a Gore/Conyers ticket even with his age.

[mdmc]

26. How about Gore / Clinton?

I like Dean at the DNC! I think that Gore / Clinton would be a winning ticket!

[linazelle]

28. Until voting machines are fixed, it doesn't matter who runs. nt

[Uncle Joe]

30. I can tell that you are one of those people that does not like to say,

"I told you so"

:)

Kicked and nominated

:kick:

[blm]

32. Gore, Dean and EVERY Dem is spun the next day by GOP controlled media.

Deal with the media and ANY Dem message can get a hearing.

[milkyway]

33. Gore/Feingold or Gore/Clark works for me!

[samhsarah]

40. hell yeah!!