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Mon Jul-10-06 09:24 PM
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Hmmm, take a tax-free 85K Halliburton position vs a NPO. |
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I'd like to start a NPO as I face imminent unemployment but have no benefactor or economic security. Why not do a year contract with Halliburton in Iraq, tax free, more money than I've ever made, pay off student loans, have a small cookie-jar collection left over for me and my son's future.
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:25 PM
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1. Do you value your life? How bout your arms, eyes, legs? |
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:29 PM
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5. Yes. I value their lives, too. eom |
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:31 PM
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7. To whom are you referring? |
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:35 PM
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10. Those other than my own. n/t |
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Mon Jul-10-06 10:35 PM
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19. Well if you don't value your life, how bout your soul. Want to sell out |
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to the Haliburton Satan? LOL Be my guest, but don't say we didn't warn you.
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Mon Jul-10-06 10:55 PM
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22. Why assume my "soul" would be sold? |
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:shrug:
My soul is intact no matter what. Taking such a position could not destroy my soul. I may very well connect with and empower those who feel/are oppressed in a more impactful way than I do here. Why not? Maybe, I could make a greater difference, in a positive way, there rather than here....who knows? You don't KNOW. Neither do I.
I do KNOW one thing, though,...my soul is mine,...and forever intact, never sold, never soiled. Got that?
'kay!
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:25 PM
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:26 PM
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3. Because you are far too likely to die doing the Iraq gig. |
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It is about to become hell on earth over there, and I don't think you want to leave your son an orphan.
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:31 PM
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6. My family is close. He would never be "an orphan". |
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To the contrary, he would cared for quite well.
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:32 PM
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8. So this is some sort of death wish on your part? |
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Because that is what it amounts to.
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:36 PM
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:44 PM
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13. I just say how it looks from here. |
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That's why I asked rather than told.
I wouldn't do what you are contemplating for a zillion dollars. You are more valuable to your boy alive than dead even if he would be well off should you be killed there. And what if you die on your very first day there? He'd have nothing and you'd be gone.
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:50 PM
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Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 09:51 PM by Just Me
,..."dead", that I'll come back "dead". That's an assumption that is way out in left field.
Look, I am able to make a difference no matter where I go. Right?
Here, I have little $$$ value in spite of my education, in spite of my human advocacy, in spite of my human compassion.
On edit: I do, sincerely, appreciate your vocal value of my life,...and the fear associated with the possibility it could be lost in this choice I consider,...okay? :hug:
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:29 PM
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4. Well--for one thing, you could get killed. |
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$85 K isn't a whole lot of $$ for putting yourself at that much risk. For another, you'd be contributing your efforts to advancing Murka's Evil Empire. And for a third, you'd be surrounding yourself with mercenary assholes.
If you can get past these minor points, hey, go for it.
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:34 PM
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9. I could get killed hitting a deer. |
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I am not required to "advance" anyone's "Evil Empire". I would still have the capacity to advance basic human interests. I don't HAVE to surround myself with "mercenary assholes".
Too many assumptions.
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:38 PM
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12. If you got your heart so set on it ...then go |
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and if you make it back, you can tell everyone if it was worth it
(i'd imagine it wouldn't be worth it if you didn't make it back)
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:45 PM
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14. It seems the only viable economic alternative, right now. |
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I'm busting my ass trying to find another way,...but, the alternatives leave me facing another round of abject poverty. No, thanks. I never considered taking a position with "the dark side" as a means to accomplish making a difference and making a living. However, considering I have no benefactors, no economic independence, inadequate "networking", etc. to succeed in making a difference and make a living,...my choices are somewhat limited.
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:46 PM
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15. Sounds like you already have your mind made up |
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and just wanted someone to agree with you. Not too many here are going to do that, methinks.:shrug:
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Mon Jul-10-06 09:57 PM
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I just know what it's like to do "entreprenuerial". I've tried it and failed several times. I am still planning on trying, again. However, if I can't insure some inkling of economic stability for the sake of my son, I've decided there are other choices I wouldn't have previously considered that could fulfill both my need for a meaningful life and to provide for my son.
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Mon Jul-10-06 10:49 PM
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21. This is just bullshit. You son would rather have you and be poor than |
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have what's left of the money.
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Mon Jul-10-06 11:06 PM
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23. My son wants a future. |
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And, YES, he wants me in it. We love eachother, dearly, and he doesn't like this suggestion/consideration, either. He and I are all we've ever had through this difficult life.
On the other hand, poverty steals a lot from people. You know it, I know it, and my son knows it, too. He and I, we've been through it, together. I will not choose a year contract if my son says he can't handle a year away from me. This is an option on the table of survival, a possibility to still make a difference and make a living. Do you understand that?
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Tue Jul-11-06 09:13 AM
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24. I understand that you want a brighter future together, as do me and my |
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son, but Halliburton? Blah blah blah. Devil's footsoldiers are not an option for a brighter future. Stealing from people? That offers a brighter future for you? hmmmmmf. There are other ways.
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Mon Jul-10-06 10:22 PM
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18. have they actually offered you this job? |
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Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 10:31 PM by pitohui
because a friend of mine thought the same and halliburton laughed him out of the office
if you are qualified, do go for it, but there is a long line of people for these jobs apparently, i was surprised, but the pay is great and lots of well qualified people are in competition
sometimes the most important thing you can do in time of crisis is not to be a nuisance, and if getting good $ to care for you and your son helps you succeed in that goal, i think you're doing the right thing
on reading the thread, i didn't mean to be callous by saying nothing abt the physical risk you might be taking, my assumption was that you were quite well aware of that and in any case others have already offered their thoughts on that matter
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Mon Jul-10-06 10:36 PM
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20. Nope. I did get a solicitation (which was weird), via email. |
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I never considered something like that an option, really (on the other hand, never considered working for a "Republican" an option, either *LOL*). But, life deals out cards over which we have no control. Wouldn't it be magical if we got the cards we wanted?
Anyhoots, I've got these cards and,...have a pair of deuces, if that. I have to play with what I'm dealt. Doesn't require me to be narrow in my choices. I am prepared to be open and creative. Even the cards dealt don't dictate who I am.
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Tue Jul-11-06 10:02 AM
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25. What happens to your son |
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if you come back alive, but with PTSD? Are you prepared for him to have to deal with that?
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