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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:48 PM
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David Brooks Disses the Netroots: "They Practice Politics So Viciously"
So, David, the Netroots PRACTICE politics viciously, while the Republicons are accomplished PROFESSIONALS at it?


Newshour Shields and Brooks

Originally Aired: July 7, 2006

Confronting the press
JIM LEHRER: Well, how what was your take on that, how the president is handling this stuff?

DAVID BROOKS: I'm a dissenter from my journalistic colleagues on how to ask questions in these things.

There is an attempt in all these press conferences to ask highly charged, highly challenging, and highly negative questions, which is a way to -- and this is done with both parties, and it's done in settings with five journalists or in a big televised press conference like this. And you get the politician's back up, and he or she never actually gives you any information. I'm much more in favor of a conversational mode to get the person to relax. And the one bit of information we got out of this press conference was when he was asked a very informational question: Were the missiles from North Korea aimed to us, could we have intercepted them?

JIM LEHRER: Yes. That was...

DAVID BROOKS: And he suggested we probably could have, though he sounded like he was talking off the top of his head.

JIM LEHRER: But that was -- interestingly enough, that was the only real news that came...

MARK SHIELDS: That came out of that.

DAVID BROOKS: Right.

JIM LEHRER: ... that came out of that. I MEAN, IF YOU DEFINE NEWS AS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN’T KNOW BEFORE.....

DAVID BROOKS: Right.

:rofl: :cry: :evilgrin: :evilfrown:

<snip>

“Heterodox”? :shrug:

DAVID BROOKS: Yes. This is what we are going to have for two years. We're going to have independents, whether it's Joe Lieberman in Connecticut or, nationally, Hillary Clinton, or John McCain, or Rudy Giuliani, who are sort of centrist, heterodox members of their party, fighting the hard-cores. And Joe Lieberman...

JIM LEHRER: Some on the right, some on the left.

DAVID BROOKS: Right.

And this is a precursor for what we are going to see nationally. This is Joe Lieberman, who has been bipartisan, but who has been a strong liberal...and he's being challenged as not a liberal....So, I think he's highly agitated and angry. He's also agitated and angry -- and anybody would be -- by the vitriolic and vicious attacks he has withstood for the past two or three years, which can't be repeated on television. HE HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF AN INTERNET ASSAULT WHICH IS UNPRECEDENTED. SO, HE IS A GUY WHO IS PRETTY ENERGIZED.

A schism among Democrats

JIM LEHRER: What has he done to Democrats who want to be the next president of the United States, in making a decision about whether they support him now, whether they support Lamont, whether they're going to support the nominee, if Lamont happens to beat Lieberman, and Lieberman goes as an independent?

DAVID BROOKS: Right. Well, he has made life difficult, especially for Hillary Clinton, because, in my conversations -- WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE NETROOTS, WHO ARE THE REAL PROBLEMS FOR LIEBERMAN, THE PEOPLE GENERATED BY THE DAILY KOS AND THE OTHER WEB SITES ( :hi: DU ) I FIND, PRIVATELY, MOST OF THE DEMOCRATS DESPISE THESE PEOPLE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY PRACTICE POLITICS SO VICIOUSLY.

But they don't want to get in the crosshairs. And they don't want to offend the liberal base of primary voters. So, they want to support Joe Lieberman, but they don't want to get in the crosshairs.

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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:50 PM
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1. David Brooks is a candy ass.
suck it up,you sniveling mama's boy...
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:53 PM
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3. Yes, thank you, now that we got THAT out of the way.........
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maybe someone knows who pays his $alary...............................................
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:53 PM
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2. Yes, they would like to keep it a monopoly..
The can't stand the idea of competition.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:54 PM
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4. A Republican Shill Complaining Of Vicious Political Rhetoric, Ma'am
Is rather like a rattlesnake complaining of poison....
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 09:40 AM
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28. More Like A Slug Complaining About Slime
The Professor
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:55 PM
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5. So viciously AGAINST US
Is what he meant to say.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:00 AM
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6. What someone needs to explain to this asshole
that ENABLING these fascist assholes isn't CENTRIST...it's a fucking betrayal.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:14 AM
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8. Well here's an example of a truly VICIOUS statement
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 12:18 AM by omega minimo
"I FIND, PRIVATELY, MOST OF THE DEMOCRATS DESPISE THESE PEOPLE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY PRACTICE POLITICS SO VICIOUSLY."

Esp. since he know he's completely full of shit. :thumbsdown:
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:02 AM
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7. Coming from Brooks, this is priceless! N/T
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:28 AM
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12. oh my, the hoi polloi are disturbing the ruling class
Well that just won't do, will it? who let the rabble in, it's positively revolting...didn't they get their tax cuts too? why are they complaining?
I can barely enjoy my Sauvignon Blanc with all this talk of 'grassroots'.
I mean, who do these people think they are, anyway? If this keeps up they might even expect honest elections...and what with us then?
I fear the rabble rousing, hold fast and say nothing.

* * * * * *

Well the generations come
Hoy-polloy or chewing gum
Bad manners in style
And a very low profile
As the new wave rebel hoards
Scribble balls on notice boards
And the old wave hierarchy
Try to take 'em seriously
Because they have to


Upstart youth and rebels all
Who have faded to the wall
Counting points of social scale
While our water brother whale
Meets extinction on the seas
On a million wounded knees
While the taxman robs the poor
Like he's always done before
Whatever system


There are men employing men
Employing men employing men
Employing men employing men
Who fill in forms employing men
That forms a queue of paperwork
Clear stretching out into the mirk
So that nine-tenths don't produce
Holding ransom calling truce
And looking dangerous

No change
*lyrics by harper roy
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:02 AM
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19. Beautiful
who's Harper Roy
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:19 AM
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9. Oh Please
Seems we've offended Mr. Brooks' delicate sensibilities. :rofl:


THE PEOPLE GENERATED BY THE DAILY KOS AND THE OTHER WEB SITES
As if these web sites just created us out of thin air for the sole purpose of making life difficult for DINO's.
Couldn't be that we ARE the Democratic party and people like Lieberman are actually the problem. :shrug:

-chef-
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:25 AM
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10. Heterodoxal? McCain? Bullshit, he's as Homodoxal as the rest of 'em! eom
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 12:25 AM by ToeBot
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:56 AM
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15. Time to connect the heterodox!
:bounce: :yoiks: :bounce: :toast: :bounce:
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:25 AM
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11. Horrors! The Great Unwashed finally found they can have a say and
those poor elitists in DC, like David Brooks, who simply play the game and never, ever challenge the PTBS are afraid of the 'people' who aren't as tolerant of the corruption in DC nor are they willing to turn a blind eye or take orders from the WH.

What did Lieberman do to Democrats? Is he serious? :rofl: Poor Joe Lieberman, he thought he could get away with ignoring the people he is supposed to represent.

I read today that he's started his own party, and he's now on the ballot twice!! Some Democrat he is. Rather than accept the will of the people, he is determined to hold onto that seat no matter how he does it.

We are angry, that's for sure, it's just that now they get to hear about it ~ what a bunch of idiots. No wonder the country is the way it is. There was no one watching out for it, until now. The Internet will probably Joe's first target if he gets elected.
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stuckinlodi Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:31 AM
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13. Bobo is just frightened
The netroots are rendering poor Bobo irrelevant, and he's lashing out - that's all there is to his rantings about bloggers. He's just afraid his supply of cocktail weenies will be cut off because his style of "journalism" is about to die at the hands of the blogs.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 12:33 AM
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14. Viciously?......
As opposed to the warm and fuzzy Rove approach. What an asshole.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 01:02 AM
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16. Or 'rabid lambs' ~ which is what he called bloggers last week! He seems
to have changed his mind or else he sees lambs as vicious? He's getting a little desperate. They all really want Lieberman in office for some reason. They are so afraid of a change in the status quo!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:52 AM
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17. He's mad cuz "rabid lambs" won't grow up to be sheeple
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:20 PM
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22. *lol* ~ good one! n/t
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:23 PM
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24. Thank ewe
:evilgrin: Hi Catrina:hi:
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 09:34 AM
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27. *rotfl* ~ ewe are on a roll ~
Edited on Wed Jul-12-06 09:55 AM by Catrina
Do you think we can ram the point home to Brooks et al that we rabid lambs will never be the sheeple they want us to be and they better 'watch what they say' about us! :rofl:

Now you have me doing it! :hi: back atcha!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 03:29 PM
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29. Well yeah cuz we're not like Dittoheads..................
they're CLONED!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:59 AM
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18. "Viciously"? When you've
lost your country to a marauding passle of cutthroat oil barrons then you tend to get Serious. And he better be :scared:.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:21 AM
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20. You misspelled "Vigorously" again Dave...
...just like I'm sure you really know what "most of the Democrats" think.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:28 AM
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21. The same David Brooks said "neocon" was an anti-semetic codeword. Him
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 09:30 AM by oasis
I'll never trust.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:27 PM
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23. They don't like me?
OK I'll stop and re-evaluate my politics

:rofl:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:30 PM
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25. It was such an obvious hachet job
There's video floating around.........

from:

"There is an attempt in all these press conferences to ask highly charged, highly challenging, and highly negative questions, which is a way to -- and this is done with both parties, and it's done in settings with five journalists or in a big televised press conference like this. And you get the politician's back up, and he or she never actually gives you any information."

by now audience wonders who pays his bills...............

"HE HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF AN INTERNET ASSAULT WHICH IS UNPRECEDENTED.....he has made life difficult, especially for Hillary Clinton, because, in my conversations -- WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE NETROOTS, WHO ARE THE REAL PROBLEMS FOR LIEBERMAN, THE PEOPLE GENERATED BY THE DAILY KOS AND THE OTHER WEB SITES ( DU ) I FIND, PRIVATELY, MOST OF THE DEMOCRATS DESPISE THESE PEOPLE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY PRACTICE POLITICS SO VICIOUSLY."

Pot meet kettle.

"But they don't want to get in the crosshairs."

By now he is panting and huffing and puffing........

"And they don't want to offend the liberal base of primary voters."

So yer saying the "vicious" "netroots" represents the "liberal base of primary voters............." so sheer numbers means maybe not so "vicious" after all?


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pyro858 Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 11:08 PM
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26. Brooks is a typical media lamb
makes you want to puke listening to these cowards.
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