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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:03 AM
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Bush's threats to NASA?....Unconstitutional!!!
How dare Bush keep us uninformed with the status
of the environment!!!

GORE:
"To take another example, scientific warnings about the catastrophic consequences of unchecked global warming were censored by a political appointee in the White House who had no scientific training. And today one of the leading scientific experts on global warming in NASA has been ordered not to talk to members of the press and to keep a careful log of everyone he meets with so that the Executive Branch can monitor and control his discussions of global warming."

"ORDERED NOT TO TALK!!!!"

WHY BUSH????

SCARE of REALITY???
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:09 AM
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1. hmmmm, what IS * hiding?
this doesn't sound good!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:15 AM
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4. All State Insurance is refusing new home polices to the East coast area.
They are refusing to write new policies for homes in New York City and Long Island among other coastal areas. What do you THINK it means?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:18 AM
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5. WOW!!!.....Wag the Dog in the making again?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:01 AM
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10. Huh?
I was thinking we're going to lose our coastal cities and outlying islands.

I don't know what part of that wags.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:53 AM
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16. really....i did not know this
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 11:54 AM by shanti
but i don't exactly what it means other than it's not good. :(
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:10 AM
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2. You're either with us or you're with the global warmers. n/t
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:13 AM
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3. You dare question Der Fuhrer?
You vill be vatched:sarcasm:
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:55 AM
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9. No need for that sarcasm label...
we are being watched.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:47 AM
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6. So, who IS this person?
"one of the leading scientific experts on global warming in NASA has been ordered not to talk to members of the press and to keep a careful log of everyone he meets" ????

I wondered this when I heard Gore give his speech live...."who is this? why haven't we heard about this already?" (oh right, he can't talk about it)....

Are.we.talking.about.AMERICA?...Land.of.the.free...??????

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:51 AM
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7. Why do you think we are doing the Manned moon mission
crap? Because we need to send people to the moon right now, or mars?

Nope.

It's a way to de-fund all of the other NASA programs (like the MTPE) without cutting the budget, the money will just be
"re-targeted" to the manned missions (well, actually, the money will be sent to prime contractors... I doubt we will really
see any manned missions anywhere).

It's just a boondoggle to distract from the environmental missions.

It's not surprising to me at all that there are gag orders on NASA scientists.

P.S. I put in 10 years at NASA... my title was "Chief Scientist" (don't get too excited, I was only midway up the food chain,
however I did spend a lot of time with the DAO and EOSDIS programs)
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:13 AM
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12. They also don't want NASA finding any terrestrial planets,
leading to more scientific undermining of religion. (a healthy undermining, of course)
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:44 AM
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14. I thought they were under orders to find Heaven n/t
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:53 AM
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8. Um. Plame.
Was anyone ordered not to talk about her?

Global Warming? How about nuclear winter. Or is that nuclur, Mr. President.

If anyone's mouth needs to be stopped, it is his and those who control his mouth.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:10 AM
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11. Why did NASA kill a climate change project?
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/15/opinion/edpark.php

Why did NASA kill a climate change project?
Robert L. Park The New York Times

SUNDAY, JANUARY 15, 2006


COLLEGE PARK, Maryland NASA has quietly terminated the Deep Space Climate Observatory, citing "competing priorities." The news media took little notice. Few Americans, after all, had even heard of the program. But the entire world may come to mourn its passing.

<snip>
The better experiment when it comes to global warming was to be the climate observatory, situated in space at the neutral-gravity point between the Sun and Earth. Called Lagrange 1, or L1, this point is about 1 million miles from Earth. At L1, with a view of the full disk of the Sun in one direction, and a full sunlit Earth in the opposite, the observatory could continuously monitor Earth's energy balance. It was given a poetic name, Triana, after Rodrigo de Triana, the sailor aboard Christopher Columbus' ship who first sighted the New World.

Development began in November 1998 and it was ready for launching three years later. The cost was only about $100 million. For comparison, that is only one-thousandth the cost of the International Space Station, which serves no useful purpose.

Before Triana could be launched, however, there was a presidential election. Many of the industries favored by the new Bush White House were not anxious to have the cause of global warming pinned down. The launching was put on hold.

The disdain of the Bush White House for Triana goes much deeper than just a desire to avoid the truth about global warming. Triana began life in early 1998 as a brainchild of Al Gore, who was then the vice president. Gore, the story goes, woke up one morning wondering if it would be possible to beam a continuous image of the full Earth back from space to inspire people with the need to care for our planet. The 1972 portrait of the full Earth, taken from the Moon, had inspired millions with the fragile beauty of our blue planet. Why not beam the image live into classrooms, allowing students to view weather systems marching around the globe?
<snip>
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:17 AM
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13. And the MSM is part of Bushco's disinformation campaign:
Number of peer-reviewed scientific Journal articles about Global Warming published between 1993 and 2003:

928

Percentage that cast doubt on human caused Global Warming:

0

Number of hard news stories about Global Warming published by the NYT, LA Times, WP, and WSJ between 1988 and 2002:

3,543

Percentage of those that cast doubt:

53%

SOURCE: The Utne Reader, page 21, Jan/ Feb 2006
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 08:36 AM
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15. They should play that sound bite in Central Florida. It will send
shockwaves throughout the right-wing world.
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