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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:24 PM
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Why is Dick Durbin Singing the Praises of Club Gitmo to Wolfie?
he's telling blitzer about an interrogation he watched where they gave a detainee a subway sammich and how his eyes lit up and the prisoner couldn't stop talking. he says it's a very different place than it used to be, and he was very impressed. i guess that's why they're still committing suicide there.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:30 PM
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1. Durbin wants our treatment of prisoners to live up to our ideals
his statement was intended to further that end.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:42 PM
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2. you think so? seemed like toadying to me.
if he really wanted the treatment to live up to our standards it seems he would have denounced gitmo and the holding of people w/o charges/representation/outside contact/trial instead of talking about how impressed he was with the joint like it was a nice place to be and work on your tan.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:51 PM
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3. Durbin on the Hamdan decision
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/015197.html

The only Senator to speak about the Supreme Court's decision in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld today was Dick Durbin (D-IL.) Here is his statement and a snippet:

Today, the Supreme Court ruled against the Bush administration and for James Madison and for the rule of law. Here is what Justice Anthony Kennedy said: "Concentration of power (in the executive branch) puts personal liberty in peril of arbitrary action by officials, an incursion the Constitution's three-part system is designed to avoid."

This is a historic decision -- a decision that reminds this President and every President to come that they must answer first to the Constitution of the United States. It says to President Bush and all of those who promulgated these policies that they must answer to our Constitution.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:54 PM
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4. WHAT?
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 04:55 PM by KoKo01
Horrifying......if anyone can have outrage anymore....

What? Dick Durbin said that? Bought off ...in some blackmail scam?

I posted a couple weeks ago about some Bushbot Jerk saying that Gitmo Prisoners were given McDonald's "Big Macs" during interogation. Some toady was on telling Noran O'Donnell on MSNBC's "Hardball" that GITMO internments could order from a "Menu" which rotated every two weeks but that "...during interrogation practices they ate "Big Macs."

I posted and asked here on DU if "forcing folks who were being interrogated (and possibly tortured) who were Muslims to eat Big Macs wasn't a further form of TORTURE?" I got some replies that included that if the McDonalds had been supervised and the cows killed according to Islamic Law that it might be okay for them to eat a "Big Mac."

I think I live in an "alternate universe" these days, Don....I'm starting to feel really "out of it." :crazy:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:55 PM
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5. sincere question...
why would a Muslim have any objection to a Big Mac?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 05:04 PM
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6. To be "droll" here....I guess a Big Mac would sound good if you had been
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 05:04 PM by KoKo01
starved or beaten or whatever they do with torture. Is that what you are saying?

Islamic Law is much like Jewish Law in that "how it's killed" is important. So if the cow was "unclean" and Mickey "D's" is contracting to GITMO and abiding by the "laws of killing animals" I guess if the interogee was informed by the Interegor that the animal had been killed according to Islamic Law (and that the interrogee was in the frame of mind to "care" at that point then...it would be okay to "chow down" the Big Mac!

Is this a SICKO enough answer for you? :puke:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 05:12 PM
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7. does McDonald's violate any Muslim laws in their food preparation?
another sincere question I don't know the answer to.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 05:36 PM
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8. He was making those points on Ed Schultz, too
He said they told him (and he passed it on as gospel) that they always had followed the Geneva Conventions.

Made me wonder why we needed the smelly old Supreme Court at all :eyes:

Really, it was an over the top defense of Gitmo. Basically, he ended up saying that the reason he wants it closed is that, even though it's a peachy place, the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.

It was a very disappointing frame.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 06:16 PM
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9. Prolly Still Spooked By What Happened Last Year
After he spoke with dismay about an FBI report last year of how Gitmo detainees were being mistreated ("I'd expect these things to happen in Soviet Russia, Pol Pot's Laos or Nazi Germany"), the reich-wingers accused him of betraying the troops, and like the spineless jellyfish that he is, recanted his statements shortly afterwards.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 06:16 PM
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10. I smell a new Subway ad
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