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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:28 PM
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Poll question: If your 14 year old daughter were raped and murdered,
by a powerful or rich person and the MSM kept referring to her as a woman, would you think the MSM was going easy on the perpetrator?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:32 PM
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1. It would bother me.
And the perp had better hope the cops get him before I do.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:32 PM
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2. With all do respect....I would have preferred you placed your poll
on this question: "If your 14 year old daughter were raped and burned alive by occupying troops, will you still support the troops that did this to her"
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:41 PM
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5. I confess, my version is milder than the incident in question,
however I was trying to personalize it, and I thought this would be easier for someone to visualize, because very few if any here has lived under an army of occupation.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:49 PM
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14. I am glad you revised your poll, and left out the "burning alive" part
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 07:50 PM by AlamoDemoc
...we don't want to make others feel that we are disgusted the actions of our troops burning raped victims alive.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:58 PM
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20. I fervently hope swift justice falls on the troops that committed this
atrocity. If you wish to start a poll with burning alive feel free to do so.

The point of this poll was to expose the MSM's deceptions which led to this war based on lies. The same deceptions that enabled Bush to power to begin with, without those deceptions, this girl and many others would very likely still be alive.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:45 PM
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10. That is another good question, make a poll on it.
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 07:53 PM by uppityperson
seriously, but I think they shot her in the head before burning her.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:37 PM
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3. Thats because she was asking for it and being provocative with the troops
Boys will be boys, you know.



P.S. Uh, do I really have to put a sarcasm icon on this post?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:42 PM
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6. The one icon, I hate to use is sarcasm,
it's like having to explain a joke.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:44 PM
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9. no
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:39 PM
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4. If that had been my daughter...
then I'd be dead too.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:48 PM
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13. yes me too
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:51 PM
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17. Yes, well, anybody.
They shot the parents too.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:43 PM
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7. You're kidding....
...right?

I'm not that detached - I could deal with the death - but not the violence of the death - I guess I have some growing to do.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:46 PM
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12. It's not the death, I am referring to, it's the behavior of the MSM. n/t
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:57 PM
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19. I'm sorry...
...I didn't get it.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:00 PM
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21. Are you upset that the media is manipulating this story?
calling her a "woman" rather than a 14 yr old, thereby giving some people the ability to pass it off as "just another war crime" rather than a rape, murder, mutilation of a child, her little sister, her mama and papa. There are 2 issues here, outrage at the crime, and outrage that the media/military is attempting to minimize it/cover it up by mistating her age.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:13 PM
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26. The fact that the media...
...misrepresents the age of the girl is disgusting on its face.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:02 PM
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22. Some people have said it makes no difference
how the MSM refers to her whether a girl or a woman, I was just trying to personalize it and see if that registered.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:43 PM
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8. Yes and here is why
Esp when they refer to missing college students as girls and esp if she were not of a rich, powerful or white family. But even if she was. I would wonder why they would say this as she is still a minor, legally unable to drive, vote, drink, smoke, drop out of school and does not have the capability to be able to support herself.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:45 PM
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11. like I stated...
...I'm not that detached...I guess I have some growing to do.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:49 PM
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15. I recall a news story a few years back...
... about a young woman mudered by her estranged boyfriend. The boyfriend was captured and confessed to the murder out of state. The father of the girl got wind of where they boy was, and as the marshals were escorting the boyfriend through the airport to extradite him, the father, who was standing by a phone, moved out and shot the boyfried dead.

Sad story all around, but as the father of a daughter, I likely would have done the same, and never looked back.

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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:02 PM
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23. was that the one that was...
..."caught on tape"?

It's hard when you are attacked where you live. When it is your responsibility to protect - it's hard to be detached.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 11:07 PM
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30. Yes, it was caught by a news crew...
... that was following the extradition story.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:50 PM
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16. Here is the letter I just wrote to my lccal newspaper
Is it the policy of the Journal/Sentinel to refer to a 14 year old as a girl or a woman?

I should think such a person would be considered a girl. Which is why I'm perplexed as to why the AP and your newspaper keep referring to the girl who was raped and killed by ex-soldier Steven D. Green as a young woman.

If she were your daughter, would you consider her a woman, or a girl.

It bothers me. Alot. I fear an attempt is being made to sheild the soldiers in question. Would any other rapist get such consideration?

Here's an article in Editor and Publisher that perhaps explains what I mean better than I can.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002803062

I would like a response please.. Thank you for your time.

Erica
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:53 PM
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18. My response to my local news, just this morning
I would like to take you to task in the reporting done this morning at 5am.

Tammy Field's in reporting on an Al Jazeera video saying that our three soldier's were killed for the revenge of a "young Iraqi female". Oh, yes, she was a young Iraqi female. That is the cleansed version. She was a 14 year old child, in every sense of the word. Oh and by the way her name was, Abeer Qasim Hamza al-Janabi with a date of birth of August 19, 1991.

I don't appreciate my news sanitized.

Thank you, Jeanette
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:05 PM
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24. Good letter LittleClarkie. n/t
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:12 PM
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25. and ice is cold, and water is wet. n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:16 PM
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27. I am glad you see the point rucky,
now tell that to the people that say it makes no difference how the MSM refers to her.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:40 PM
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28. In this country
you are often refered to as a "girl" until you are pretty old so I find it very odd that they would call a 14 year old from another country a woman. It seems I often have to tell people I am not a girl, what is up with that?

* I am 52 and I find it insulting to have some guy call me a girl*
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:44 PM
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29. right on baby! or would that be babe?
me too, me too.
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