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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:53 PM
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If you were that 14 year old girl that was raped and murdered...
would you be upset about people focusing on your rape instead of focusing on your murder and the murder of your siblings and your parents?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:54 PM
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1. No, I'd be dead.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:57 PM
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2. Beat me to it. nt
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:11 PM
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10. First thing that came to my mind
without even looking at the posts.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:57 PM
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3. No, I would want people focus on how my rape&murder is being manipulated
I'd be pissed at not only being raped, murdered, mutilated and my entire family murdered, but at how my rape, murder and mutilation is being manipulated to not look so bad for the troop supporters. If I could think after I was dead that is.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:00 PM
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4. So, in other words...
yes.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:05 PM
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8. Misread your question, here's a better answer
"If you were that 14 year old girl that was raped and murdered would you be upset about people focusing on your rape instead of focusing on your murder and the murder of your siblings and your parents?"

I do not think if she were just raped that anyone would know about her. I think people are focusing on her right now due to the coverup/manipulation. However, I think people are not just focusing on her rape, but the whole kit and kaboodle, mass torture/murder/mutilation of 2 children and 2 adults along with raping 1 of the children.

So, I disagree with the assumption in your question that people are focusing on your rape rather than the whole thing. But I get what you are getting at.
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Biernuts Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:01 PM
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6. I would throw lightning bolts from heaven at ANYONE who tried
to stereotype all US troops as criminals rather than focus on identifying, convicting and punishing the ones who actuallty committed the crime.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:02 PM
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7. Hmm, stereotyping US troops...
Yes, I'm sure she's worried about that from heaven.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:06 PM
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9. they are out there.
and I hate them. I try to not hate people, but there are some that I do.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:01 PM
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5. How can you not include the rape? Who just focuses on that one thing?
All the evils go together; rape, murder, desecration of a dead body, mass killing, people should try to focus on the totality of the crime.
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Biernuts Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:23 PM
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12. At least in US jurisprudence, the courts have held that murder, and
it's logical to conclude that mass killings qualify when they constitute murder, can be capital crimes eligible for the death penalty. Without murder, rape and desecration of a body, would not.

The applicability of these holdings haven't been tested on military-unique crimes such as mutiny and desertion nor on treason and espionage.



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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:12 PM
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11. Without the rape, she would not have been murdered
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 08:30 PM by RagingInMiami
Rape was the motive for the murder. Or more precisely, the motive was to cover up the rape. And the murder of her family was to eliminate every witness to the rape.

From what I've read, the rape was premediated for days, if not weeks. It went from basic lust to basic barbarism. And once they crossed that line, there was nothing they were unable to do, including murder.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:24 PM
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13. Exactly.nt.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:39 PM
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14. I would imagine that many victims of vicious rapes would rather be dead
I'm sure she would not be upset that people focus on the fact that she was viciously raped and then murdered. To focus on the murder only tells but a part of the sdick story.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:47 PM
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15. I would want those who caused this to happen to be brought to
justice and not just the soldiers who committed this atrocity but those who put those soldiers in a place they didn't belong in the first place, Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld to begin with and the whole whore media who beat the war drums up until know. They are all guilty and need to be tried and punished preferably with life in prison doing hard time.
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