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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:03 PM
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Cindy Sheehan: Mamas, Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Soldiers
Mamas, Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Soldiers
By Cindy Sheehan
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Tuesday 11 July 2006

As of today, the War Department lists 2544 as the number of unjustly murdered troops in Iraq. Dozens of innocent Iraqis are being killed due to the war crime every day. Over 80 Iraqis were killed in Baghdad alone on July 9th: dozens of people just in one city on one day who would be alive if not for BushCo.

I don't know what number Casey was. Nor do I care. I have seen people say 614, I have seen people say 714. It doesn't matter, because Casey and the other 2543 were not numbers. They were living, breathing, loving, worthwhile and contributing members of society. They could pass drug tests (unlike their "commander in chief" at their ages) and they honorably volunteered to serve their country to defend America and our freedoms. What George Bush and the rest of the careless war profiteers have committed in Iraq is abuse and misuse and had nothing to do with defending America or protecting our freedoms. The lies are well documented and proven. The lies are written on my heart forever.

MORE: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071106A.shtml
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eprn1n2 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:26 PM
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1. My goodness this women is stupid
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 09:55 PM by eprn1n2
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:29 PM
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2. Why?
Because she is telling the truth? Because she doesn't want to see more young American men & women being killed to fulfill some right-winger's fantasy of world domination?
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eprn1n2 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:46 PM
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4. I think she was probably
born that way. Nothing personal and there are a lot of very capable people who are on the left side of the bell curve of intelligence. The problem is when she became a spokesperson for a movement her dimness is on display for everyone to see. Love her fast fast!!
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:52 PM
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7. You didn't answer the question
Why is she stupid? You say it's nothing personal, but you're the one who called her stupid. Sounds pretty personal to me. What has she said or done that's stupid?

Her son DIED in a war that she believes is wrong and immoral. Most of us feel the same way. Over 2500 American soldiers have died in Iraq, along with countless innocent civilians. We have soldiers over there committing heinous crimes - whether they are isolated incidents or not, it doesn't really matter does it? The simple fact is that is what is making the news, both here and over there. Do you really think that's going to go over very well with the Iraqis, when we're over there raping their children?

For what? What have we really accomplished by going into Iraq?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:05 PM
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12. She was quite intelligent and well-spoken reacting to the "interview"
by Norah O'Donnell last week.

You have any examples of "stupidity?"
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FUGW Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:12 PM
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16. "her dimness is on display for everyone to see."
I'm trying to be tricky with this statement and GW's "dimness" but I feel like I'm cheating.:D
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:26 PM
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22. eprn1n2 on a topic of "STUPID" people in glass houses shouldn't toss stone
how do you live in a house without privacy? Soon we'll ALL have homes without privacy thanks to your draft-dodging boys in DC.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:32 PM
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3. Welcome to DU!
:hi:

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eprn1n2 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:48 PM
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5. thanks
Is that you in your picture??
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:55 PM
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8. No, they are little weenie spineless freeptards to afraid to go to Iraq.
They are ugly chicken shit Red Commie cowards who spend time harassing free-thinking Americans - a bunch of inbred hillbilly Stalinists. :D



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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:56 PM
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10. hee hee
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:09 PM
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14. They are Green Weenies...
They have other "priorities" that prevent them from signing up to go fight in Iraq.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:55 PM
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9. It's "woman," and you need to answer the question
before the pizza arrives.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:56 PM
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11. LOL! ... I brought the beer!


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eprn1n2 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:07 PM
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13. Sorry..This woman is stupid
I answered already. I think she was probably born that way. Genetics. Has someone explained to her that fasting is usually done without protein smoothies. Generally you lose weight when you fast. i think she means well and has the full six pack but she's missing the little plastic thingy that holds it all together
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:12 PM
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15. Can I measure your cranium to see from what species you devolved?
:D



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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:14 PM
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18. You have YET to provide one single example
WHY do you think she is stupid? Are you going to give us at least one example? Obviously you have such a strong opinion of her to call her stupid, surely you must have something to base this on. We're still waiting...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:26 PM
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21. No, the question is what is she doing that makes you think she's stupid
We're not asking what makes a person stupid. We're disputing your opinion, and asking you to explain what it is about her that you think is stupid.

And what reports have you had that she's drinking smoothies? As far as I know she's actually fasting. And I know that Diane from Code Pink is actually fasting.

What have you heard and what links do you have to support that claim?
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FUGW Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:28 PM
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23. Dam Mr. Authoritarian, if she just fasted in a way you could
except a grieving mother to fast I'm sure you would be proud of her.
"Generally you lose weight when you fast" Thank you for that info, who told you to think that?
"i think she means well" No you don't you half witt.
Please tell us eprn1n2 how we would be safer if you could have her thrown in jail?
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:13 PM
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17. "Women" is plural smart guy
Ya need to protect your own gonads if you are going to hit below the belt.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:23 PM
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19. What gonads???
:)


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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:29 PM
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24. I wonder what it said before he edited it
Hmmm.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:33 PM
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25. He sure ducked out of here pretty fast, didn't he?
Faster than a GOPer asked to appear before a draft board.
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eprn1n2 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 11:10 PM
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27. Cindy's fast
Here is Cindy's latest entry in her anti-war fast diary.

I find traveling out of the country very challenging being on a fast. When I was on a layover in Madrid on my way to Venice, Italy yesterday, the closest thing I could find to a smoothie to get a little protein was a coffee with vanilla ice cream in it. Traveling for 22 hours is very taxing under normal circumstances—but then again, when have we had normal circumstances since the 2000 and 2004 successful coup attempts that have brought BushCo into power?

The elevator just doesn't stop on all floors does it?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 11:25 PM
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28. Would you happen to have a link to that?
By the by?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 11:34 PM
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29. A fast is not a hunger strike.
Have a link for that?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 11:36 PM
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30. Here's her blog
http://crawfordpeace.nfshost.com/blog/2803

Everyone's doing their own thing. She's liquid only, apparently. People like Diane from Code Pink are hardcore water only. To each their own I guess.

I suppose she reckoned she needed to get some nourishment or should wouldn't be able to keep up with her appearances and such. People are invited to fast just as much or as little as they want to in solidarity for the cause.

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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:42 PM
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26.  this women is stupid?
:rofl:

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:48 PM
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6. Cindy knows what is important.......
It doesn't matter what number someone was, because truly they are "living,breathing,loving,worthwhile and contributing members of society. And that the horror of these abusive war profiteers want everyone to think this war is protecting our freedoms. Although, many suspect, these soldiers are protecting the profits of these war profiteers.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:24 PM
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20. Pretty Good Article But Horrible Title And Closing Line.
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 10:31 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
It is a shame that our soldiers have to fight in an illegal war started under false pretense by a false president, but I think the moral of the story there is make sure you elect better presidents: Not don't let your kids grow up to be soldiers.

Fact is we need our armed forces. Though peace is always the better option not having a prepared and adequeate army is disasterous. As much as I hate the Iraq war and its atrocities I would never lobby for people to teach their kids to never want to defend their country. That ultimately is every individual's choice to make for themselves and God bless our troops that were brave and heroic enough to sign up to begin with.

I feel for Cindy and her loss, and to all those who have lost loved ones. But I vehemently disagree with a notion that tomorrow's children should be turned against joining the service. We need an army and we need a strong defense structure. Saying stuff like "Don't let your babies grow up to be soldiers" plays right into the right wing crap that the left is soft on national security and I winced heavily upon reading it.

Good content within the article, but immensely misguided title and closing. Sorry Cindy.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 11:40 PM
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31. Hey eprn1n2, why won't you answer the question?
You've YET to give us one single reason why you think Cindy Sheehan is stupid. All you can do is quibble over her fasting techniques. Can you provide one single thing she has said or done that you find stupid?

Or is this going to be yet another freeper hit-and-run post?
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