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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:38 AM Original message |
Hillary's Remarks: Stupid, Offensive and Pandering |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. I wouldn't support her either; she's Bush lite. nt |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
103. listen to hillary's and gores remarks and rebuttals here - > mp3 |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
2. The "plantation" comment wasn't a great idea, that's for sure... |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
64. A white woman should NEVER assume she can use that reference honestly |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
71. it won't hurt her in NYS |
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KyuzoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
3. Playing the race card on MLK day is pretty goofy. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Her audiance was in Harlem. I think apropo for this group. I will not join |
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BushOut06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. it is rather ironic, would you not say? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
56. It also isn't racist as it's clear she feels the current state of the |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Well received in Harlem |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Apropos for "this group"? To compare Congress to a g*ddam plantation? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
63. It all depends for me on how her Harlem audience |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
76. Me either, if anyone has a right to say it in Harlem, a Clinton does |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. Well said! (nt) |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
108. I won't criticize the senator from New York for this |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. So every reference to slavery is "the race card"? NOT |
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Ishoutandscream2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. "The Race Card" is right wing lingo |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
90. well, said. Lets all remember this before we slam Dems |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
114. Using RW taling points such as "race card" is pretty revealing |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
4. I detest Hillary, but what she said is accurate |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
29. But not in Congress. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Give me a Clark/Feingold ticket any day in 2008 |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Amen! |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
6. More opportunistic, than anything else. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
7. Yay, let's all bash Dems for stating the obvious. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Did you even read |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Yes, I read what you wrote. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I don't think so |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Well, she's done it now, and I would suggest applauding. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
51. I'm no Hillary Fan but i agree with Tasteblind.. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
8. Hillary is the candidate that is being selected for us by the Media, and I |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. She'll say amything to anybody |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
12. I am not at all impressed with Hillary's performance |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
13. What kills me |
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VaYallaDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
19. Hillary is busy promoting her sole agenda. Which is, of course .... |
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montana500 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
20. Why dont we save the thoughtful liberal act for a non-election year? |
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WePurrsevere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
21. Please give me a link about Hillary supporting this "tire burn". NewsMax |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. It's been all over the VT papers |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
109. PIRG was founded by Ralph Nader |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
22. Let her flame out early, so we can have a candidate in 2008 |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
23. What's stupid and pandering is this thread |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Agree. No big Hillary fan, but this is shrill and idiotic. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
99. Ditto, no big Hillary fan, but good for her |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. AMEN. nt |
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Libby2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. You said it !! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Umm, no. |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Your comparison of a plantation to a concentration camp makes |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
84. Would you characterize 19th century RESERVATIONS, as concentration camps? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
89. Guess what? Unless you're black, it's not for you to protest it. |
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samhsarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. Oh you are SOOO RIGHT!!!!! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
62. There were several threads praising this |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
73. I'd like to hear HRC say it again, outside of Harlem |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
75. Great Point! (nt) |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
100. Tell it. mtnsnake |
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jarab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
26. I believe we should forego the expectation of anything |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
27. Give me a break. Gore said the very same thing in a different way |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Again |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 11:07 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. "Gores speech was brilliant..." And you don't hear a word about it |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. umm... I heard more about Gore's speech than Clintons... |
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MamaBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Thanks |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
32. i thought the plantation thing was stupid. why i say we dems cannot |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. Why shouldn't we talk about White Supremacy, instead? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. hey..... i am all for talking about it. i have been for three decades |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
83. Racism is at the root of the Great White Plantation aka Congress and the |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #53 |
105. I agree |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
36. Had any other Democrat used these exact words... |
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slestak (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. I wouldn't |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. John Conyers or Harry Belafonte need to complain about Hill's |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
88. Funny you should say it - Conyers endorses it! |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
39. Folks, it's time to put aside Hillary as the great white hope. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. dont you support dem senators to speak out? why do you hate america? |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
85. Hil and universal health care was a long time ago in an administration |
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VonDoomPhd (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
72. Drowning they are... |
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FloridaPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
41. How about * hanging MLK? Where's the outrage on that? |
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samhsarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
42. the talking heads in the M$M seem to think Hillary's strongest opposition |
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Bethany Rockafella (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
45. Nope, I don't agree with the Republican. |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
46. She'll get my primary vote when she peels it out of my cold dead hands |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
52. Right on target... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Hardly irrational |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Link please... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. The link |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
54. Hillary's attack on Bushco prompted a CNN poll. She's "on the mark" and |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
55. The audience applauded wildly... sounds like she was fine. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
58. I don't generally support Hillary, but anyone who attacks * is OK by me. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. that is what i would think. geez, i say thanks to the likes of stern |
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MsAnthropy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
65. I disagree |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
67. Hmm...So if Hillary doesn't attack Repubs she's a DINO, but if she does |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. Exactly - yet another example |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
68. I'm very hesitant to agree.... |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
69. Well, if HRC repeats what she said in Harlem again in upstate |
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PaulaFarrell (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
70. Inapt and inappropriate |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
74. Sabato is a tool. Give money to him and he will say anything you want |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
77. Say your piece, the LIONESS did the hunt, takes em down, in for the kill. |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I agree. I thought it was a good analogy. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #77 |
95. Bingo. thanks --well said. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
81. "Plantation" may be underground vernacular, but it's not new |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. yes, she can, she was in a Black church in Harlem and as Sharpton said |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. here are others who used the word plantation posted ealier on DU |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:03 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. LASHBACK: Gingrich Said Democrats Think They “Run The Plantation” |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. I wondered if Hillary had been aware of this Gingrich remark |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
82. Hillary was right on regardless what you're opinions are. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
87. Oh please....if it wasn't this you would have found something else to |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Like "Al Gore's desperate plea for attention" Same writers, same ploy |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 10:23 AM Response to Reply #87 |
101. So right ~ why we would bash someone, |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
96. She is right. Where was all the fuss when she said it the first time? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-17-06 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
97. According to other reports, the audience applauded thunderously at that |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
102. As a black person... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. The audience and African American leaders didn't see it that way. |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 10:49 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Actually, I knew that many blacks supported her comments |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #102 |
110. Pointless ain't offensive. To pretend to be "offended" is patronizing |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
106. Nagin and Hillary both need to be slapped |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #106 |
111. yeaghhhhh! remember the scream? You're running WITH the pack now. |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. entirely different situation |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-18-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Stupidity is yours to not see you are being played the same way |
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