Pleas notwithstanding

[undergroundpanther]

Police fine schoolkids for foul language

Associated Press

Dec. 1, 2005

HARTFORD, Conn. -- Bad words are costing
Hartford Public and Bulkeley high schoolers
$103 each. Police officers assigned to the
schools have fined about two dozen students for
cursing in a new program to curtail unruly

behavior.

The joint effort by school and police officials targets students who swear while defying teachers and administrators. "We're sending a message to the parents and to the teachers," said Sandy Cruz-Serrano, senior adviser to Superintendent of Schools Robert Henry. "We are trying to bring back order to the schools."....


$103 bucks for cussing????

Well, fuckity fuck fuckeroo! The Christian fucking Taliban is looking to prop up the goddamn fucking fascist state full of freaking assholes, starting with taking free speech away from teenagers, by charging one FUCKING hundred and three goddamn bucks for cussing.

These schoolmarm old fart bitches fucking think they are everyone's parents, well, fuck their 'purity' laws, their fucked-up religion, their goddamn meddling, and their sick-ass god... Oh, and did I mention it? FUUUUCKKKK all Christianazifucking greedy-ass, control freak asshoooolles!

If they even THINK they can control my speech, they will NOT! Fuck, fuck, fuck, shit, damn, asshole motherfucking pieces of goddamn shit. I wonder who's gonna walk up to Cheney and say, "Gimme $103 for saying f--k in Congress"? This is really the shit calling a turd brown. Damn.

I have fought plenty of asshole puritanical language crusaders before. They just HATE having their empty "authority" disregarded. Anyone who would try to control another person's speech is a narcissist, a pathological control freak.

And I have found when people do not try to control my speech, and do not constantly draw my attention to it to control or humiliate me, I cuss less. But I still cuss.

When I was an adolescent in my first psych stay, the unit director got the big idea to end cussing on the unit by charging a quarter a cuss word. We nuts got together and I cooked up a plan. Solidarity really undermines speech police. Here are two methods I used to stop speech control in totalitarian environments:

I made a fake cussword list called the adolescent/adult unit cussing conversion chart. Cusswords became new words, but meant the same thing. Spatch = ass, wogger =fuck, nibbekly nog = son of a bitch. You get the idea.

All the patients had a copy and would use the chart instead of the cuss word. It drove the staff crazy because they didn't know what the word meant, and they couldn't charge us for using it. Any time someone cussed they'd pull out the chart run their finger down and pick the word. You see the INTENTION of the words remained and the paper conversion chart made the staff feel stupid. And so they had to abandon their big idea to get the adolescent unit to speak their way.

The other time I faced the language police was when I was put on a "cussing behavior modification program." I was bribed and forced to "give up" cussing by a puritanical therapist who fancied herself a "Doctor Ruth."(Note: see my journal on DU scroll until you see a Trans Story, if you wanna see how fucked in the head this"therapist was)

I saw it as a stupid game, but I didn't cuss at all for two months. When she felt I had "overcome my cursing issues," she met with me in the day room and declared I was to be off the program at 3:00. I signed her order saying I was officially done with the program (this particular psych hospital was nuts, IMHO) and she asked me if I was glad to be a "graduate" of her anti-cussing program.

I sat there silent until I saw the minute hand click past 3:00, and then I yelled at the top of my lungs, FffuuuuucK Yeah you goddamn BiiiYACH, and I went on cussing a blue streak of epic proportions.

Then I stretched, yawned, and said, OK, I think I'm done ... No, no, wait ... waaaaait ... Fuck! THERE! Boy, do I feel better ...

I got up, and said, "Good job, you really changed me, didn't you? Well, looks like you forgot about my free will to defy you and my right to choose to keep my constitutional free speech intact even if you don't like me to have it because I'm the loony toon. It was a fun little game wasn't it?" I patted her back.

She was in shock. Well, let's just say the expression on her face was like she just sucked a lemon. And half way to my room I doubled over laughing and my buddies put on "Let's talk dirty to the Animals" by Gilda Radner, as the other patients who were well aware of this program I was on laughed their asses off at my therapist, and she slinked off the unit past all the laughing loons, helpless to do a damn thing about my free FUCKING speech.

I had already signed the paper, so I had met my obligation. They NEVER attempted this language modification bullshit on another patient again, at least not while I was there. Suffice to say, if you can make a cussing program totally futile in a totally controlled fascist environment like a mental hospital, if you can disable the desire of puritanical fascist control freaks to control speech because they're not able to deal with changes or able to live and let live, the same tactics can destroyed the same kinds of programs on a larger scale in society.

If the vice squads can restrict what you say through cussing, and fine you money for the content of your speech, how long until it costs you to say Bush is a war criminal who should be impeached?

These Republican puritans want to control what is spoken. They want you to have to watch what you say, or you can't pay the rent.

And so in closing, Fuck all you goddamn fucking puritanical Bible-waving control freak fools.



http://www.unknownnews.org/0512021201cusswords.html

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. You are entitled to your opinion

but I have mine as well. I don't consider it fascism to curtail speech in certain situations. Instead, I view it as a way of showing respect. Of course, I also think respect should never be demanded, but rather earned.

When I taught elementary school, students would use the words you used in order to try and shock me. I never let it phase me-just asked if they knew the origins of the word (the "F" word comes from the Dutch; another etomology has it coming from a word that means "planting seeds", which I find apt), and then challenged them to come up with more creative ways of expressing themselves. I gave them some examples of words which could be used; the favorite being "pusilanimus", which really sounds vile when said aloud in a certain tone of voice. Of course, if the word was being used because the student was truly frustrated over something, I would take them aside and try and help them figure out what had caused their frustration-and work out a solution. If I found I was in error, I tried always to admit it and apologize-this, to my mind, set an example for a behavior that I wished to have emulated.

If your teachers were of the power-hungry controlling kind, you have my sincere sympathy. I know that there are some people who, by their actions, have not earned my respect but instead my contempt. I only wish that schools could teach using respect and love for the students, and also a lot - a very lot - of caring and understanding.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. Yeah, they'll use it against the poor and minority kids hardest.

They've probably got that rule about how you can't graduate if you owe the school any money as well.

[Kutjara]

3. More unbelievable RW bullshit.

It reminds me of that Stallone movie "Demolition Man": "John Spartan, you are fined two credits for a sotto voce violation of the verbal morality statute."

School administrators have always been specially selected from the most authoritarian anal-retentive segments of society but, even so, they must have gone hip deep into the barrel to find these specimens.

[undergroundpanther]

15. Remember the food portions

In demolition man? Some health nazi type people push for such things now..Demolition man may very well be the future of America if these authoritarian people are not shamed into stopping controlling what others can say and be.

[LittleClarkie]

4. Are you a teenager in high school?

What does this have to do with Bible wavers or Christian Talibanners. Cursing is actually considered disorderly conduct if I'm not mistaken. I don't see the problem with trying to maintain discipline in schools. It's not even a private religious school.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. Only a first rate fundamentalist asshole...

Would consider fining a kid for swearing.

[LittleClarkie]

6. There is no evidence in the article of such

Loved this paragraph in particular:

"Keila Ayala, 17, a Hartford Public sophomore, said she was ticketed for shouting an expletive in an officer's face while handcuffed for taking a swing at him. "It'll stop me from swearing," she said. "Well, it won't stop me from swearing, but I won't cuss at the teachers."

How... sweet.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. ...

"HARTFORD, Conn. -- Bad words are costing
Hartford Public and Bulkeley high schoolers
$103 each. Police officers assigned to the
schools have fined about two dozen students for
cursing in a new program to curtail unruly"

[LittleClarkie]

9. I'm mean the rightist fundamentalist fascist part

It's a public school

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. Yeah, well the lunatics are in charge of the asylum.

They're also "teaching" abstinence in public schools. Also a fundamentally stupid fundamentalist position.

[undergroundpanther]

13. A public school is the

LAST place for a censorship proogram.

Sure bust the bullies but do not limit speech and topics of learning.

[undergroundpanther]

8. I'm crazy

All the shit I put up in my life with narcissistic control freak puritans who ,incidentally can verbally tear a soul to shreds without a single fuck said ,they are the problem. Who is you to say strong emotions are disorders or not? Who gives you the"authority" to tell me what I can say or declare a voice that YOU don't like is a mental disorder.
No shrink I have EVER been to in my LIFE has been ABLE to define to me what SANITY looks like in a human ,YET.It's all tied to obeying social control games .And the fact you and these shrinks can't see that silly fucking authoritarian problem in your"request" to dominate how things are spoken..,shows me society itself is fucked up,after all we are a sick species we are destroying an entire planet and killing innocent kids in Iraq and that is just two horrors.Abuse of human beings is far more offensive to me than cuss words can ever be.
Until you have questioned your own hang ups about spooky works and tribal taboos don't project your puritan bullshit disguised as"psychology"onto me.

[undergroundpanther]

12. No I am 40

And most people with hangups about cussing coincidentally are religious.Noty spiritual but RELIGIOUS. Authoritarian.

Haven't you heard..There's a war on words??


So the trouble with the way theocracies read is that they have a narrow idea of what literature is: they think it only contains one kind of thing, and has only one purpose, which is a narrowly political one. This is true even of some apparent supporters of literature, such as the leftist activists described by Nafisi, who defended Scott Fitzgerald against the attacks of the Muslim activists on the grounds that "we needed to read fiction like The Great Gatsby because we needed to know about the immorality of American culture. They felt we should read more revolutionary material, but we should read books like this as well, to understand the enemy." The theocratic cast of mind is always reductive whether it's in power or not.
http://books.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5055590-110738,00.html

It is also no wonder they are threatened by the internet, where anyone can say anything without censorship. Of course they are quick to try and point out that sources on the internet 'can't be trusted'. What they fail to point out of course is that newspapers, magazines and books or any other form of writing can't be trusted either. What they really mean is that things published on the internet are generally not approved by the authoritarian establishment.

http://www.kiamagic.com/freedom/sight.php
The second mode of social control is not generally discussed within the anti-authoritarian literature. The “soft-line” mode of social control includes less direct modes of oppression, such as the control of dissent through the legal regulation of physical space. Stanley Cohen’s Visions of Social Control attempts to understand how “soft-line” social control is an equally effective tool of the state for maintaining control. As anti-authoritarians, we need to start thinking about “soft-line” social control and the effects that it has on our movements, since both “soft-” and “hard-line” modes tend to work in unison.

http://www.newformulation.org/4fernandez.htm

This is why cussing and opinions to those offended that is not intentional deliberate verbal abuse must be protected as free speech.Take responsibility for our freedoms and don't read what offends YOU take responsibility for your dogmas,for not everyone shares them..

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

14. They're usually pretty immature too.

[undergroundpanther]

16. What is mature

An authoritarian bully who never cussses

Or a good hearted person who cares and helps and feels for others deeply and has raw emotions and rants about it?

A revolution to change the heart and nation is never polite enough for the uptight authoritarians ,reactionaries,or the establishment..

[undergroundpanther]

10. Authoritarians..never can have too much control

Over other people..NEVER and they want to make sure we are pure to THIER self serving standards..weell fuck 'em.
In my OP..
"If the vice squads can restrict what you say through cussing, and fine you money for the content of your speech, how long until it costs you to say Bush is a war criminal who should be impeached?
These Republican puritans want to control what is spoken. They want you to have to watch what you say, or you can't pay the rent."

And lookee here..MY OP is already happening..
Southwest employees insisted, change the shirt, or change flights. "I didn't feel that I should have to change my shirt, because we live in the United States, and it's freedom of speech and it was based on the move "The Fockers", and I didn't think it should have offended anyone."

But it did.

The shirt had pictures of members of the Bush Administration, and a phrase based on the movie "Meet the Fockers," but with one crucial vowel changed.

It was enough to cause complaints from other passengers and it's a problem the airline has had to deal with before.
http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3939788&nav=8faO