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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:46 AM
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Main Hizbullah headquarters (Beirut) bombed
Not sure if this has been posted yet this morning... with the time difference between here and the ME, I'm losing track of what has been reported to have been bombed and what hasn't been bombed (yet).


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150885994586&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


IAF fighter jets struck the main Hizbullah headquarters building in Beirut on Friday morning as well as an adjacent building that housed security guards.

The IDF said that the headquarters, which were in the Shi'ite neighborhood of Dahiya, were used to direct terrorism around the world

The impact of at least seven missiles were heard in the attack on south Beirut in the hours before dawn on Friday, according to an AP photographer, reporter and other witnesses. Anti-aircraft fire from the ground echoed in other suburbs of Beirut as the planes roared over the Lebanese capital.

<snip>

Early Friday, an Israeli plane also fired a missile at a fuel storage tank for the power station at Jiye on the Mediterranean coast in central Lebanon, just north of the port city of Sidon, witnesses said.

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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:49 AM
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1. I don't think it has been posted yet, but thanks!
Edited on Fri Jul-14-06 02:49 AM by dubeskin
It is so hard to keep track of what has been bombed and has not.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 02:55 AM
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2. Hopefully, this will knock out some of their command.
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 04:16 AM
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6. ....
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 04:51 AM
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7. ....
..."Don't like the heat, stay out of the kitchen!"
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:00 AM
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8. they fired into Haifa and nothing will stop Israel until the missles
from Hizballah are destroyed

people can bitch on the blogs all they want, but that will be how it is

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:03 AM
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9. Dead Jews...er, Israelis don't matter to some.
I figured I would introduce the word "Jew" since I am accused of it so often. Face it, pro-Israeli or not, there are some here who are solely anti-Israeli and anything from Israel is "evil!" Anything that happens to Israel or her citizens is "deserved."
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:20 AM
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13. It won't matter what they think, Israel will do what it needs to do
to secure its inhabitants. I believe it was ill advised for Israel to destroy the power plant in Gaza, since that will hurt a lot of civillians caught in the middle, but once the missles hit Haifa from Lebanon Israel had no alternative
There will be no cease fire now until any remaining missles are destroyed
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:25 AM
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15. I agree.
But here is a question for you...why are the lives of others more important than those of Israelis? Why, when Israel tries to protect her own, it is "over-reaction," but when the 'others' do it, it is "protecting their own?" Why must Israel suffer attack after attack and be expected to be "restrained," but the poor "others" can do anything they like because they are trying to throw off the "yoke of oppression," even those (Hizb'allah) who are not oppressed?!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:34 AM
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19. I agree with you, quite a few people always paint Israel as the bad guy
and I also know you take a lot of abuse for your defense of her

but consider this, no matter whether a Democrat or a Republican is in control, they will support Israel's right to exist, and protect itself, so no matter what those that hate Israel think, it will NOT change the policy of this country.

However, I do believe in a two state solution, and if there need to be a wall between the two states, so be it






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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:43 AM
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22. And therein lies the problem...
You say that no matter which party is in control, they (the party) will support Israel's right to exist. I don't believe that any more! The far-left and far-right are both more than willing to sacrifice and blame Israel for all the ills of the Middle East and the world! So what happens if one of those groups controls the reigns of the country? They are both cut from the same fabric..."you are with us or against us," yet both are too stupid to see it!

I also believe in a two-state resolution. I don't even think there needs to be a wall, if both sides can accept the boundaries. My fear, is the rightist "Apocalypse" group want all out war, and the leftist group wants "one state (basically, no Israel)!" We will see a repeat of 1945! Where they will resettle the Jews, and the new place won't want them either!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:51 AM
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23. I think the last six years have been very instructive to
Americans what happens when one party tilts to far in one direction. At least I hope so

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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:00 AM
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3. The more I read the more I believe that this group of Israeli
leaders are just continuing the ongoing battle in Lebanon.

They pulled out of Lebanon in 2000 -- and it probably stuck in the craw of some of these guys that the Hizbullah "won" -- or forced them out of Southern Lebanon.

So much happened to Lebanon during the Israeli occupation -- I'd forgotten most of it.

Now I'm wondering about the significance of Southern Lebanon --

Isn't it interesting that Israel is taking a page out of the US military Iraq invasion book -- it seems that blowing up power stations which harm the civilian population (collective punishment) seems to be the targets of choice.

Power stations in modern cities are needed to run hospitals, water and sewage -- without these a population is reduced to primitive conditions. And it is the children who will suffer first.

Israel also seems to be tossing off her mantle of victim -- I guess it got too hot playing the victim after all these years. Israel must be well equipped and armed by the American Taxpayer -- seems like we should have a voice about how our tax dollar is being spent.

Wonder when the bunker busters will be used -- in Lebanon -- going after their old Hizbullah enemies -- or maybe Syria or even Iran?

I am hoping that another poster was correct when they wrote that Israel isn't stupid enough to use nukes. It would be sort of like pooping in their own bed.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:15 AM
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4. IAF officer: "No distinction between Hizbullah and Lebanese targets"
Taken right out of chimp's playbook..to hell with collateral damage (innocent civilians/families/kids/life saving infrastructures and needs).


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1150885994426&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


"The air force is ready for any operation that will be necessary during the current military campaign against Lebanon," Brig.-Gen. Yohanan Locker, Commander of the IAF's Air Division, told The Jerusalem Post Thursday night.

The officer revealed that IAF fighter jets, helicopters, and AWACs had participated in hundreds of airborne operations over Lebanon since two soldiers were kidnapped and eight others killed in a Hizbullah attack along the northern border on Wednesday.

The air force, he said, has struck dozens of homes in southern Lebanon that were also used as cover for Katyusha launchers as well as other strategic sites, including the Beirut International Airport, a fuel depot in Beirut, and two other airports in Lebanon. Regarding the homes, the officer said the roofs were sometimes removed and the Katyushas were fired from inside, landing in Nahariya, Safed, and other communities in northern Israel.

The officer stressed that there was no distinction between Hizbullah and Lebanese targets. "Lebanon is responsible for what has happened," the officer said. "The air force is prepared to continue operating around the clock over Lebanon during this operation."


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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 04:05 AM
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5. another page out of the Rummy/cheney/bush play book


All of this perhaps to engage Iran? -- one would think Iran's leaders will be shrewd enough to see what we can see from this distance and with very limited reporting.

After all the bush gang isn't all that smart -- I'll bet that bushie's contact with the press will be limited -- he gives away their secrets.

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:06 AM
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10. It seems that the Israeli Govt. is going to destroy
as much of Hezbulah as they can before they stop this Operation. If innocent Lebanese are killed &/or maimmed so be it.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:42 AM
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21. once the missles hit Haifa, that set the course for the events
you have just described

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:07 AM
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11. I don't agree with that officers assessment
of no distinction between Hizbullah and Lebanese targets, because that implies collective punishment, but once the missles hit Haifa they will not stop until the remaining Hizbullah missles are destroyed



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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:13 AM
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12. Why should they stop?
I don't agree with not distinguishing between civilians and military, but how does one distinguish such in this situation?!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:23 AM
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14. I don't know
This is the part that is so disturbing. It's my hope this crisis can be solved and the military action stopped. There's so much violence going on in the world I'm beginning to think the whole world has gone mad.

I hope all have the sense to send the innocents far from the action even though it will deprive those who are driving this conflict of horrible pictures to keep/get the masses stirred up with.

Julie
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:28 AM
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17. It is disturbing.
People seem to only feel for any group other than Israelis (not enough of them have died). They only feel for the Palestinian children who are afraid at night, but the Israeli children...fuck them! Where is the real balance?

I agree that the hostilities MUST stop, but is not just Israel being hostile!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 06:51 AM
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26. Yeah, the forgotten ones
I think we have players on both sides pushing these hostilites forward. It goes without saying (or at least it should) that there are innocents getting hurt on both sides too.

A pox on those making it happen on both sides and nothin' but sympathy for the innocents who are hurt on both sides.

There is too much killing going on in the world!!!


:rant:

Julie
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:26 AM
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16. I just disagreed with the statement that their was no distinction
between Lebanese and Hezbalah. Of course they will be caught up in the middle

The problem is that the bush administration actually helped to get Syria to leave Lebanon, and Lebanon was able to elect a government

Before Israel attacked Lebanon, it would have been nice if they tried to go through the Lebanon government first. Unfortunately, once Haifa was attacked there was no alternative

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:32 AM
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18. You are a nice one...
...but the Lebanese government is terrified by Hizb'allah! They would have done NOTHING. It should be very evident now. Their first action was not to ask Hizb'allah to release the prisoners, but to whine to the UN.

The Lebanese government is weak. The Lebanese people hate Hizb'allah. They are considered a blight on their country, yet their government does nothing about them.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:40 AM
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20. Yes it is weak, but it would have been politically prudent
to at least try to go through the Lebanese government first. You and I really don't disagree

For your own health try not to get too frustrated with the some of the people who say Israel does nothing right. You know the reality of the situation
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enigmacat Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:52 AM
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24. How dare they "whine" to the UN!
They should just do what Israel is doing and bomb the life out of innocent people, including children. :mad:
Oh, right, according to your "logic" Lebanon is responsible because of what a terrorist organization does.
God help any country in the world who has a citizen that commits a terrorist act, because they would have to be bombed and massacred to, by Israel's way of thinking.
Israel is getting its own innocent citizens killed. Its own soldiers. That doesn't even seem to make them think twice.
I am tired of seeing this on the news, and it makes me wish for Clinton.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 05:58 AM
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25. that is the problem with collective retribution
no one has any idea what Pandora's box has been opened

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